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listen all im really gettin at is that the saints deserve some credit for making it to the ship, i think it takes away from a great team to say thier ther by luck, i mean thats taking away from a very talented NO team, and thats wrong, all im getting at is that the saints won, no if ands or buts about, plain and simple, they won, they deserve credit, for beating a very good vikings team, now how they won i really dont care about, just givin'em credit for the win, and in my personal opinion i think the vikings lost cuz the saints put up more points than they did. lol bottom line is that the vikings couldnt capitilize and the saints could not. i thought it was a good game it was fun to watch wich is why i dono why people are so worked up about it i mean sure some of the calls were iffy but no one is perfect and yess that includes the refs, would you all have wrather watch a 40-0 blowout? i mean high stake games are best played till the final minutes and even overtime thats what makes the game so great, thos high stake, pressure sitiuations that keep you on the edge of your seat, i really enjoyed that game it was close with alot on the line what more can you ask for? both teams are very good teams and i respect them both, but i just wanna put out there that the saints are going to the SB beacuse they know how to win, theyve dont it all season just as the colts have and thats why ther in the ship together, no luck involved. lol so if we could all just drop it that would be nice i realize that cody and black you guys are entitled to your own opinions and i 100% respect that, just hopin ya'l can respect mine as well. lol

cody2009 wrote:

ur a saints fan.. thats why ur saying that.. so ur sayin all those call in overtime... that even the commentators, and saints fans around here said were very questionable.. had nothing to do with the game.. even with that.. the saints won cause of a coin flip... and the help of those reffs.. stop sayin the saints are all that is football.. i admit that the saints won.. but i aint sayin they were the best team in that game.. it goes to show the best team doesnt always win..

Hey what was the final score?? THANK YOU thread closed

wow...we so are not talking about the who won... gah.. ihate retarted people.. i said i know the saints won.. but its not like they actually were the wons that won it...and i believe the saints woulda actually lost to the eagles if they played with mcnabb.. cause dree brees was sacked and threw a couple of pics.. eagles defense dominated the saints.. kevin kolb threw a pic six.. thats what happend... the saints may be going.. but since they won but they wernt the best team then they are gonna get murderd... the colts are by far the best team in nfc.. they didnt give anyone the oppertunity to win it...

cody2009 wrote:

wow...we so are not talking about the who won... gah.. ihate retarted people.. i said i know the saints won.. but its not like they actually were the wons that won it...and i believe the saints woulda actually lost to the eagles if they played with mcnabb.. cause dree brees was sacked and threw a couple of pics.. eagles defense dominated the saints.. kevin kolb threw a pic six.. thats what happend... the saints may be going.. but since they won but they wernt the best team then they are gonna get murderd... the colts are by far the best team in nfc.. they didnt give anyone the oppertunity to win it...

Haha we are the retarded ones?? Read your own post idiot.. "The colts are by far the best team in the NFC" LMAO.. If the Saints weren't the ones who won it then who did? Sure wasn't the Vikings, so obviously the Saints won.. At least Crazy has a point, but your just saying s*** that makes no sense at all.. And no one cares what you believe, because the Saints beat the Eagles.. Eagles D dominated the Saints?? Why dont you tell that to the 48 points that the Saints posted on them.. Colb threw a pick 6 with 55 seconds left in the game, when the Saints were up 41-22 anyways.. Haha whats your definition of "domination"?? Haha if its getting 48 points posted on you, then every defense in the league is dominating.. Haha but the funniest thing in your idiotic post "The Colts are by far the best team in the NFC"..

hahaha yeah i had to reread that one lol


i know the saints won, and i think there the better team and will win the super bowl. but answer this question Ac3r, if the vikes dont fumble the ball 6 times and throw 2 picks (6 total turnovers and the 2 INT by favre were just plain DUMB) do you think the saints still win the game? cause i think the vikes D did pretty damn good only giving up 31 to the best O in the NFL turning the ball over 6 times

honestly, i dont think they do. congrats on your first super bowl ever, but the vikes gave you this win (not to mention a little help from the refs lol)

crazyblack001 wrote:

hahaha yeah i had to reread that one lol


i know the saints won, and i think there the better team and will win the super bowl. but answer this question Ac3r, if the vikes dont fumble the ball 6 times and throw 2 picks (6 total turnovers and the 2 INT by favre were just plain DUMB) do you think the saints still win the game? cause i think the vikes D did pretty damn good only giving up 31 to the best O in the NFL turning the ball over 6 times

honestly, i dont think they do. congrats on your first super bowl ever, but the vikes gave you this win (not to mention a little help from the refs lol)

Well yea if you take away the turnovers Vikes win by a mile, but turnovers are a part of the game.. It takes away from the Vikes skill because it shows how poorly they protect the ball, and it shows the pressure the Saints D puts on opponents, to cause so many turnovers.. The Vikes did do good on D, they held Brees in check most the game, although Brees over threw a couple of receivers by a matter of inches

lol how about that nice PI in OT when the linebacker didnt even touch him lol

o wow i do feel dumb.. i was thinking about something else while i was writing.. i hate when i get two things mixed up..ha

by the way it doesnt take skill take make ap fumble... just look his way and is outta there... the saints had nothing to do with ap fumbling the ball 2 of those times.. favre and ap had trouble on the hand off.. so u cant say its all skill.. when the other teams makes its own fumbles...MMM so we agree it really wasnt much of the saints but more of the viks giving the game away again

i just thought about doing this but think about this
*saints are have only an offense and special teams.. and only a passing game, yeah they run the ball good but its cause they are super crazy at passing, like in the viks game when they knew they were gonna run it they stoped them
*their defense is only good because, again their offensive passing game is so crazy and they score alot, makes the other team take chances, thus more turnovers
* everyone is talking about the saints oline.. their average.. the reason they give up low amount of sacks is because of brees is so quick at making decisons. if u watch the game allen was getting doubled and even trippled team and still driving the back to brees.. if it was any other qb besides brees it woulda been sack fest on that oline

***viks have a legendary running game that u cant stop when u know its coming, their passing is great(minus a couple of throws from favre).. their defense is just crazy at run stuffing and pass rush, if they get a corner or a saftey its just over. specials team- one name, harvin

Thats pretty funny but sometimes madden seams like it has this too.

i still dono why ya'l arguing. lol its over i bet ya'l will still be arguing while the saints are playing in the ship. lol i see where a3er and black and cody is commin from just let it go it was an entertaining game that i enjoyed watching.

cody2009 wrote:

i just thought about doing this but think about this
*saints are have only an offense and special teams.. and only a passing game, yeah they run the ball good but its cause they are super crazy at passing, like in the viks game when they knew they were gonna run it they stoped them
*their defense is only good because, again their offensive passing game is so crazy and they score alot, makes the other team take chances, thus more turnovers
* everyone is talking about the saints oline.. their average.. the reason they give up low amount of sacks is because of brees is so quick at making decisons. if u watch the game allen was getting doubled and even trippled team and still driving the back to brees.. if it was any other qb besides brees it woulda been sack fest on that oline

***viks have a legendary running game that u cant stop when u know its coming, their passing is great(minus a couple of throws from favre).. their defense is just crazy at run stuffing and pass rush, if they get a corner or a saftey its just over. specials team- one name, harvin

Aight.. Saints offense is #1..
Pierre Thomas - 793 Yrds 6 TD's..
Mike Bell - 654 yrds 5 TD's..
Reggie Bush - 390 yrds 5 TD's..
1,837 rushing yards, 16 TD's combined.. You just proved my point.. They pass the ball so well that it opens up a great running game, the sign of a great offense.. Idk how you are trying to take credit away from the Saints because their passing game is so good.. Exactly, their D is good because their offenses forces them to make quick scores, and our D is a pick machine..
The Vikes have a good pass game, because of Favre, Rice, and Shiancoe.. You were an idiot to even say you can't stop the Vikes running game, because Peterson was held under 100 yards 9 straight games before last Sunday.. Their pass defense is soft, and everyone knows their run defense is dominate.. Special teams Harvin.. Special teams Bush.. I still don't understand how you can keep thinking your right, after all of the stats and facts that I have given you and disproved all of your "ideas".. The Saints team works together, they get more turnovers because of their high powered offense, they have a good running game because of their passing game, their O line is good because of Brees.. But you keep taking credit away, which makes no sense.. This is pretty much what your saying.. "Well since the Saints passing game is so good, it opens up holes for their running game, so their running game sucks.." Start providing some facts before you come up with these theories

B-__-R-__-B wrote:

i still dono why ya'l arguing. lol its over i bet ya'l will still be arguing while the saints are playing in the ship. lol i see where a3er and black and cody is commin from just let it go it was an entertaining game that i enjoyed watching.

You see, I hate being wrong in an argument, its just how I am lol

you cant disprove one part of the game like that...its a TEAM game bro, and what do teams do? they work together and feed off of each other. if your theory was right then why arnt the colts a highly ranked rushing team? why were the texans ranked number 1 in passing yards per game but 30th in rushing yards per game? even though the texans had only about 40 carries less then the saints this season but were still had about 700 fewer rushing yards? its becoming more and more obvious that your just a hater. the saints backs are good and it showed this season. does it mean that peyton manning has an overrated line because peyton gets rid of the ball quick? no it doesnt, they saints line is great and the D of the saints outplayed the D of the vikes. favre got hit so many times that game and brees was almost untouched


the moral of the story.....turnovers KILL your chances at winning a game, no matter how good you are

crazyblack001 wrote:

you cant disprove one part of the game like that...its a TEAM game bro, and what do teams do? they work together and feed off of each other. if your theory was right then why arnt the colts a highly ranked rushing team? why were the texans ranked number 1 in passing yards per game but 30th in rushing yards per game? even though the texans had only about 40 carries less then the saints this season but were still had about 700 fewer rushing yards? its becoming more and more obvious that your just a hater. the saints backs are good and it showed this season. does it mean that peyton manning has an overrated line because peyton gets rid of the ball quick? no it doesnt, they saints line is great and the D of the saints outplayed the D of the vikes. favre got hit so many times that game and brees was almost untouched


the moral of the story.....turnovers KILL your chances at winning a game, no matter how good you are

Thanks crazy

ok think about this.. the texans and colts passing game is a diffrent style of passing..... saints are just crazy at passing... it opens up the run.. and peyton gets sacked.. because his style of passing is a little bit diffrent from brees.. he takes a little bit longer then brees... if u take away brees then u lose the whole team... im telling u their o line is overrated.. farve got hit alot cause he got blitzed alot, and instead of a hot route, he threw it deep and took the hits, its not like their oline is the greatest.. if u watched them they their dline killed them they just got the ball off before brees could get hit.. and u noticed how the saints got stoped on 3rd and short alot, because the viks already shut down 2 passing attempts.. teams look alot better when they are playing with a lead.. its a fact

lol the problem with the Saints vs Vikes game was Bret Farve's last pass, it was unnecessary. He tried to hard to force it to Sidney Rice. If he had just thrown it short to Peterson or just simply thrown it away it would have been all gravy.

i think everyone on the vikings trys to do to much and it hurts them.. ap and favre compete to be the hero and try and force plays and it hurts them.. both of them are big play producers, but they both turn it over.. its basically a gamble

cody2009 wrote:

ok think about this.. the texans and colts passing game is a diffrent style of passing..... saints are just crazy at passing... it opens up the run.. and peyton gets sacked.. because his style of passing is a little bit diffrent from brees.. he takes a little bit longer then brees... if u take away brees then u lose the whole team... im telling u their o line is overrated.. farve got hit alot cause he got blitzed alot, and instead of a hot route, he threw it deep and took the hits, its not like their oline is the greatest.. if u watched them they their dline killed them they just got the ball off before brees could get hit.. and u noticed how the saints got stoped on 3rd and short alot, because the viks already shut down 2 passing attempts.. teams look alot better when they are playing with a lead.. its a fact

Haha so your basically saying "If you take away Brees, their quarterback and best player, then they will suck.." Of f***** course they will, and its the same way with the Colts or Vikings or any other team worth a ish out their.. If you take away Peyton Manning the Colts will suck.. If you take away Brett Favre the Vikes wont be as good either.. That goes for every team, not just the Saints you idiot.. Haven't you realized that everyone on here thinks your an idiot and that your wrong?

CapnCrunch wrote:

You don't deserve to win a football game with 5 fumbles

You can talk about uncatchable if you want, but the ref called the interference because the defender never turned to locate the ball, then he got lost and pushed off. That is what the ref saw, that is what I saw. You can't go back on the play later and call uncatchable, and it is not reviewable. I have seen that same call many times.

The Saints made less mistakes, and won.

The only new thing EA is going to update from this game is add a fumble rating and call it AP All Day rating.

There are running backs in the league that don't have as many fumbles in their career as he had this season. Maybe even this one game.

Romo fumbles Cowboys lose
AP fumbles Vikings lose

What is so hard to understand

WOW im a steelers fan but 1st he didnt push off if anything the o player pushed off and should have been called o pass interference not to mention it was uncatchable

going on 7 pages now? this is very entertaining. lol like watching myself fight myself.

cody2009 wrote:

ok think about this.. the texans and colts passing game is a diffrent style of passing..... saints are just crazy at passing... it opens up the run.. and peyton gets sacked.. because his style of passing is a little bit diffrent from brees.. he takes a little bit longer then brees... if u take away brees then u lose the whole team... im telling u their o line is overrated.. farve got hit alot cause he got blitzed alot, and instead of a hot route, he threw it deep and took the hits, its not like their oline is the greatest.. if u watched them they their dline killed them they just got the ball off before brees could get hit.. and u noticed how the saints got stoped on 3rd and short alot, because the viks already shut down 2 passing attempts.. teams look alot better when they are playing with a lead.. its a fact

the colts gave up 13 sacks this year and the saints gave up 20 lol the saints have 3 players on the O line going to the probowl. just admit it man lol the saints are the better team lol