Champ Bailey is the best

BIG HUNGRY 702 wrote:

ok, even when champ was in his prime QB's wouldnt throw his way yet he still managed picks.

Remeber Champ is still in his prime, he's a freak of nature at the corner, just wait when the season starts if he stays healthy he will show all these guys in Madden-School that he is the best CB BY GOING TO HIS 9TH PRO BOWL IN 11 SEASONS while Nnamdi will still be stuck on 1 pro bowl in his 7th season.

woah woah woah. i know my football alot better than you think. Im not doubting his skills and i dont think anyone is. Deion is the 2nd greatest player of all time behind Rice. end of argument. but Nnamdi needs to step it up and make picks the way champ did it when no-one would throw his way. he needs to get to the ball not let it come to you. and i've watched him play he just watches the ball doesnt go and get it like champ did

BIG HUNGRY 702 wrote:

woah woah woah. i know my football alot better than you think. Im not doubting his skills and i dont think anyone is. Deion is the 2nd greatest player of all time behind Rice. end of argument. but Nnamdi needs to step it up and make picks the way champ did it when no-one would throw his way. he needs to get to the ball not let it come to you. and i've watched him play he just watches the ball doesnt go and get it like champ did

bruh if you honestly watch nnamdi play you wouldnt even be sayin that. gettin the ball thrown your way only 58 times in the pass two years and allowing only 18 completions? thats a 30% completion percentage which would be lower if he saw a few more passes his way. the definition of a good corner is someone who doesnt allow their man to catch the ball and nnamdi does that better than champ. interceptions are an incentive they arent what make you a great corner

BIG HUNGRY 702 wrote:

woah woah woah. i know my football alot better than you think. Im not doubting his skills and i dont think anyone is. Deion is the 2nd greatest player of all time behind Rice. end of argument. but Nnamdi needs to step it up and make picks the way champ did it when no-one would throw his way. he needs to get to the ball not let it come to you. and i've watched him play he just watches the ball doesnt go and get it like champ did

You right about that bigtime as a matter of fact Champ is the only DB other than Deion ive ever seen let the receiver run past him baiting the QB to throw the ball his way, and catch up to the receiver get up under the ball and pick it off, for those who never played football thats one of the hardest things that you can do, any other DB's including Nnamdi if they let a receiver past them, they dont have the instincts and the speed to catch up with the receiver and pick the ball off, thats going to be a touchdown for that receiver.

CHAMP AND DEION, THE GREATEST CB'S OF ALL TIME PERIOD!

BIG HUNGRY 702 wrote:

woah woah woah. i know my football alot better than you think. Im not doubting his skills and i dont think anyone is. Deion is the 2nd greatest player of all time behind Rice. end of argument. but Nnamdi needs to step it up and make picks the way champ did it when no-one would throw his way. he needs to get to the ball not let it come to you. and i've watched him play he just watches the ball doesnt go and get it like champ did

if u look at his stats champ only avgs about 3 or 4 picks per year.. and yea they try to avoid him but not to the extent they do with nnamdi... how do u only get 8 balls thrown ur way all year? thats retarded.. and i dont know what the stats are but im sure champ is getting the ball thrown his way more often then nnamdi.. cuz i know champ isnt intercepting 40-50% of balls thrown his way.. thats what ur asking nnamdi to do is get 3-4 picks per year with 8 balls thrown his way this past year.. haha that will never happen, thats just rediculous to ask...

BOSTN BEANER wrote:

BIG HUNGRY 702 wrote:

woah woah woah. i know my football alot better than you think. Im not doubting his skills and i dont think anyone is. Deion is the 2nd greatest player of all time behind Rice. end of argument. but Nnamdi needs to step it up and make picks the way champ did it when no-one would throw his way. he needs to get to the ball not let it come to you. and i've watched him play he just watches the ball doesnt go and get it like champ did

if u look at his stats champ only avgs about 3 or 4 picks per year.. and yea they try to avoid him but not to the extent they do with nnamdi... how do u only get 8 balls thrown ur way all year? thats retarded.. and i dont know what the stats are but im sure champ is getting the ball thrown his way more often then nnamdi.. cuz i know champ isnt intercepting 40-50% of balls thrown his way.. thats what ur asking nnamdi to do is get 3-4 picks per year with 8 balls thrown his way this past year.. haha that will never happen, thats just rediculous to ask...

lol these dickheads are gonna jump on you for this so ill do it first because im such a nice guy. correction 8 completions last year 27 balls thrown his way. lol my bad tho cuz i wrote it wrong earlier

ii understand that he is shutdown CB, just like champ. but in this decade, champ is the far surperior corner. and you need to reconize that. and you keep talking to me like im saying he sucks or something. he does not suck. he's just not as good as champ is right now give him a few years and we'll .


THe reason why no=one throws his way is that he is the best player on the raiders bar none. would you throw to Ronnie lott if the rest of the defense is shitty? no you wouldnt you would keep the ball away from him and exploit the weaker defensive players.if there defense gets better qb's will be froced to throw his way and test him. like i said many many times before he hasnt been tested and i wanna see more before i put him in the class of champ

devo408 wrote:

BOSTN BEANER wrote:

BIG HUNGRY 702 wrote:

woah woah woah. i know my football alot better than you think. Im not doubting his skills and i dont think anyone is. Deion is the 2nd greatest player of all time behind Rice. end of argument. but Nnamdi needs to step it up and make picks the way champ did it when no-one would throw his way. he needs to get to the ball not let it come to you. and i've watched him play he just watches the ball doesnt go and get it like champ did

if u look at his stats champ only avgs about 3 or 4 picks per year.. and yea they try to avoid him but not to the extent they do with nnamdi... how do u only get 8 balls thrown ur way all year? thats retarded.. and i dont know what the stats are but im sure champ is getting the ball thrown his way more often then nnamdi.. cuz i know champ isnt intercepting 40-50% of balls thrown his way.. thats what ur asking nnamdi to do is get 3-4 picks per year with 8 balls thrown his way this past year.. haha that will never happen, thats just rediculous to ask...

lol these dickheads are gonna jump on you for this so ill do it first because im such a nice guy. correction 8 completions last year 27 balls thrown his way. lol my bad tho cuz i wrote it wrong earlier

well then this just helps my other arguments since hes shutting down the idea of the qb completing a pass more then 67% of the time they go his way.. that means that if a qb threw his way everytime his comp% would be around 30%... now if thats not a shutdown corner then i dotn know what is.. and hes man to man coverage every play.. theres no stopping hes just nasty... nnamdi and champ are both fuckin nasty dont get me wrong for arguing this.. i do think champ is the best of all time.. but right now who do i take? i take nnamdi right now..

BIG HUNGRY 702 wrote:

ii understand that he is shutdown CB, just like champ. but in this decade, champ is the far surperior corner. and you need to reconize that. and you keep talking to me like im saying he sucks or something. he does not suck. he's just not as good as champ is right now give him a few years and we'll .


THe reason why no=one throws his way is that he is the best player on the raiders bar none. would you throw to Ronnie lott if the rest of the defense is shitty? no you wouldnt you would keep the ball away from him and exploit the weaker defensive players.if there defense gets better qb's will be froced to throw his way and test him. like i said many many times before he hasnt been tested and i wanna see more before i put him in the class of champ

that last thing you said is ridiculous because champ hasnt been on a good defense since he's been on the broncos so thats an invalid point. and cmon duh champ is the corner of the decade he's been around the whole decade so thats a given. but since 2006 when champ had ONLY 2 more picks than nnamdi nnamdi has been the better corner and you two are the only ones who dont agree on that.

thats fine.i respect your opinion but im still gonna take champ just because he's tested more often and he prevails more times than not

and the bronco's d has been alot better than the raiders d has been in the last couple of years and you know it