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tuki94 Hall of Fame MS Member
Number of posts : 1265 Registration date : 2009-01-01
| Subject: Re: Champ Bailey is the best 2009-07-27, 22:44 | |
| i feel you but Nnadmi beasted last season, more then champ imo, and not getting scored on for an entire season isnt something that hes going to be able to do right now hes still young | |
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Big Hungry 702 Madden School Veteran
Number of posts : 1459 Registration date : 2009-07-25
| Subject: Re: Champ Bailey is the best 2009-07-27, 22:54 | |
| Why cant he do it? Champ Bailey did it when he was 28. | |
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Devo Madden School Veteran
Number of posts : 1120 Registration date : 2009-02-28
| Subject: Re: Champ Bailey is the best 2009-07-27, 23:27 | |
| - BIG HUNGRY 702 wrote:
- Champs stats speak for themselves. until Nnamdi gets to more than 1 probowl you guys cant say sh*t. he's no where near champs skill nor will he ever be. and in this case even DEANGELO HALL is better than Nnamdi. More Picks, more probowls. NUFF SAID!!!! STATS DONT LIE
bruh stats do lie so your sayin picks is what makes you better? how bout the fact that top qb's in the NFL refuse to look your way because they know your better than their receivers? thats what the definition of a shutdown corner is. anybody could get 10 picks a season if the qb throws their way all the time | |
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Big Hungry 702 Madden School Veteran
Number of posts : 1459 Registration date : 2009-07-25
| Subject: Re: Champ Bailey is the best 2009-07-27, 23:31 | |
| i never heard any qb say i refuse to throw his way, plus who needs to throw it deep when you got the worst d in the nfl? | |
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Elite All-Pro MS Member
Number of posts : 255 Registration date : 2009-04-19
| Subject: Re: Champ Bailey is the best 2009-07-27, 23:33 | |
| you realize your a moron right? Stats never tell the story. Even more when we are talking about CBs.
I will give Champ the edge in terms of career wise. I dont know who will be better in the future. But right now, its not close. Ever since 07, is hasnt been close. Funniest part is that Nnamdi hasnt hit his prime yet.
and your memory didnt serve you right. Nnamdi was covering Roddy White, who had his season low is yards. | |
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Devo Madden School Veteran
Number of posts : 1120 Registration date : 2009-02-28
| Subject: Re: Champ Bailey is the best 2009-07-27, 23:33 | |
| - BIG HUNGRY 702 wrote:
- What truth is there? Stats tell the whole story
In 2006 , Bailey had ten interceptions through the season tied for the NFL lead with Asante Samuel although Samuel went to the playoffs and intercepted two more passes which he returned for touchdowns. Bailey also did not give up a touchdown during the season. I wanna see nnamdi not give up a touchdown in a entire regular season btw 2007 he only gave up 10 completions wit none being touchdowns. he only allowed 8 completions last year although im not sure if he gave up a TD or not so either way dudes a beast allowin only 18 completions in two years playin exclusively man coverage. champ runs zone sometimes so his numbers are a little inflated | |
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BOSTN BEANER Exclusive Member
Number of posts : 2328 Registration date : 2008-11-17
| Subject: Re: Champ Bailey is the best 2009-07-27, 23:34 | |
| - BIG HUNGRY 702 wrote:
- i never heard any qb say i refuse to throw his way, plus who needs to throw it deep when you got the worst d in the nfl?
there was actually 2 or 3 qbs that went to nnamdi last year after a game and make a comment saying they didnt throw to his side and that it wasnt an accident.. | |
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Devo Madden School Veteran
Number of posts : 1120 Registration date : 2009-02-28
| Subject: Re: Champ Bailey is the best 2009-07-27, 23:35 | |
| - BIG HUNGRY 702 wrote:
- i never heard any qb say i refuse to throw his way, plus who needs to throw it deep when you got the worst d in the nfl?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/10/13/SPA813FT79.DTL and the fact that he's only gotten 18 passes in the last two years says alot dont ya think? | |
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Big Hungry 702 Madden School Veteran
Number of posts : 1459 Registration date : 2009-07-25
| Subject: Re: Champ Bailey is the best 2009-07-27, 23:39 | |
| ok, but drew brees still passed for over 300 yds. and the fact remains if Nnamdi is in fact better shouldnt he have a perfect season like champ? | |
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BOSTN BEANER Exclusive Member
Number of posts : 2328 Registration date : 2008-11-17
| Subject: Re: Champ Bailey is the best 2009-07-27, 23:42 | |
| - BIG HUNGRY 702 wrote:
- ok, but drew brees still passed for over 300 yds. and the fact remains if Nnamdi is in fact better shouldnt he have a perfect season like champ?
devo jus gave u the 2007 stats.. 10 completions 0TDs thats what u were talking about as in perfect season.. no tds and 2007 nnamdi did do that... | |
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Devo Madden School Veteran
Number of posts : 1120 Registration date : 2009-02-28
| Subject: Re: Champ Bailey is the best 2009-07-27, 23:46 | |
| - BIG HUNGRY 702 wrote:
- ok, but drew brees still passed for over 300 yds. and the fact remains if Nnamdi is in fact better shouldnt he have a perfect season like champ?
what does passing for 300 yrds have to do with anything? we're talkin about how a qb said they wouldnt throw nnamdi's way and thats exactly what i showed you. and what the hell is a perfect season in your head? | |
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Big Hungry 702 Madden School Veteran
Number of posts : 1459 Registration date : 2009-07-25
| Subject: Re: Champ Bailey is the best 2009-07-27, 23:50 | |
| alllowing NO TOUCHDOWNS on you in a season ok you got me on the drew brees thing | |
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Devo Madden School Veteran
Number of posts : 1120 Registration date : 2009-02-28
| Subject: Re: Champ Bailey is the best 2009-07-27, 23:53 | |
| read my earlier posts...10 completions no TDs in 2007 maybe even in 2008 but im not sure if he gave up a TD or not last year. so basically i got you on both things end of discussion lol | |
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Big Hungry 702 Madden School Veteran
Number of posts : 1459 Registration date : 2009-07-25
| Subject: Re: Champ Bailey is the best 2009-07-27, 23:58 | |
| i didnt see any thing to verify those stats but champ bailey is still the best. Nnamdi has only one probowl. i need to see more out of him before i can name him the best | |
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BOSTN BEANER Exclusive Member
Number of posts : 2328 Registration date : 2008-11-17
| Subject: Re: Champ Bailey is the best 2009-07-28, 00:01 | |
| - BIG HUNGRY 702 wrote:
- i didnt see any thing to verify those stats but champ bailey is still the best. Nnamdi has only one probowl. i need to see more out of him before i can name him the best
so where is the champ stats so we can varify that he has had a "perfect" season?? | |
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Devo Madden School Veteran
Number of posts : 1120 Registration date : 2009-02-28
| Subject: Re: Champ Bailey is the best 2009-07-28, 00:04 | |
| - BIG HUNGRY 702 wrote:
- i didnt see any thing to verify those stats but champ bailey is still the best. Nnamdi has only one probowl. i need to see more out of him before i can name him the best
bruh im not sayin nnamdi is the best of all time or nothin cuz that spot is reserved for primetime deion sanders. but you cant say these past three years nnamdi hasnt been the better player | |
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TheDon270 Veteran MS Member
Number of posts : 666 Registration date : 2009-06-18
| Subject: Re: Champ Bailey is the best 2009-07-28, 00:06 | |
| BIG HUNGRY 702 wrote: didnt see any thing to verify those stats but champ bailey is still the best. Nnamdi has only one probowl. i need to see more out of him before i can name him the best What do you have to see more from Nnamdi. Nnamdi has less passes thrown his way then CHAMP does. He shuts down BEAST WR's. For example: Andre Johsnon 2 catches 17 yards. He shut down Steve Smith, and countless others....And on top of that Nnamdi had to learn the CORNER position, cause he played SAFETY at Cal..The transistion isn't simple. Anyhow, NFL analysts agree Nnamdi is the best, and ROD WOODSON, DEION, and RONNIE LOTT said so too. You shouldn't try to argue that CHAMP is the best, especially when Jerry Porter former Oakland WR made him his ****** the whole time they faced off, and Antonio Gates BURNED Champ too.... | |
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Big Hungry 702 Madden School Veteran
Number of posts : 1459 Registration date : 2009-07-25
| Subject: Re: Champ Bailey is the best 2009-07-28, 00:14 | |
| last 3 seasons Bailey:14 picks last 3 seasons Nnamdi: 10 picks
Last time i check 14 is more than 10 | |
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BOSTN BEANER Exclusive Member
Number of posts : 2328 Registration date : 2008-11-17
| Subject: Re: Champ Bailey is the best 2009-07-28, 00:18 | |
| - BIG HUNGRY 702 wrote:
- last 3 seasons Bailey:14 picks
last 3 seasons Nnamdi: 10 picks
Last time i check 14 is more than 10 is that ur only real argument? cuz its a pretty weak one... when u get 10 or less balls thrown ur way each season its hard to get interceptions at a high rate... the interceptions # is not how u can judge CB vs CB but its the only argument u have so u keep throwing it out there after u have no other source to backup ur argument.. i think when QBs are not trowing to ur side and tells u after games its not an accident it speaks way louder then interception #s.. | |
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Big Hungry 702 Madden School Veteran
Number of posts : 1459 Registration date : 2009-07-25
| Subject: Re: Champ Bailey is the best 2009-07-28, 00:21 | |
| i keep bringing it up because better stats means a better player and besides how do you measure a cb? by interceptions | |
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Devo Madden School Veteran
Number of posts : 1120 Registration date : 2009-02-28
| Subject: Re: Champ Bailey is the best 2009-07-28, 00:26 | |
| - BIG HUNGRY 702 wrote:
- i keep bringing it up because better stats means a better player
and besides how do you measure a cb? by interceptions not when one corner is getting less passes thrown his way which must mean he's the better player because no qb is testin nnamdi on a regular basis | |
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MADDENKING57 Rookie MS Member
Number of posts : 148 Registration date : 2008-09-03
| Subject: Re: Champ Bailey is the best 2009-07-28, 00:27 | |
| One that hasnt been said is this, if the league reconignzes you as the best, you go to the Pro Bowl, when Primetime was the best he went, when Rod Woodson was the best he went, when Darrell Green was the best he went, and in this era Champ is the best, Champ has went to the pro bowl 8 out of his 10 yrs in the league, not only that he went to the probowl 8 straight yrs, thats the longest streak from a skill position since the great Primetime Deion Sanders and the only reason he hasn't been the last 2yrs is because of injury and in those last 2yrs of Champ being injured Nnamdi didnt even go to the probowl AND HE'S THE BEST?, that's bull, Deion and Champ didnt have anybody throw to their side as you all claim that is happening to Nnamdi and they still went to the probowl, i remember a few yrs ago Champ was being interviewed in Atlanta and he said on the radio that the gm was getting boring cause QB's dont challenge him anymore and that season he still went to the probowl, if Nnamdi is the best which, "which he is not" then the league, and when i mean the league i mean players and coaches will recognize him and send him to Hawaii cause right now he is not, even with Champ having 2 injury plague seasons still has the thrown. CHAMP AND DEION, THE BEST CB'S OF ALL TIME PERIOD. | |
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Big Hungry 702 Madden School Veteran
Number of posts : 1459 Registration date : 2009-07-25
| Subject: Re: Champ Bailey is the best 2009-07-28, 00:28 | |
| ok, even when champ was in his prime QB's wouldnt throw his way yet he still managed picks. | |
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Devo Madden School Veteran
Number of posts : 1120 Registration date : 2009-02-28
| Subject: Re: Champ Bailey is the best 2009-07-28, 00:32 | |
| ok so you talk about interceptions like they're the only stat in football but look at this. deion sanders is by far the greatest corner EVER and if you dont think so i'm done wasting my time talkin to you. but he only had 52 interceptions his whole career which aint even in the top 20 of all time. but guess what? that doesnt really matter to anybody he's still the greatest corner of all time. but people like you who dont know much about football besides the stats wouldnt know that | |
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BOSTN BEANER Exclusive Member
Number of posts : 2328 Registration date : 2008-11-17
| Subject: Re: Champ Bailey is the best 2009-07-28, 00:36 | |
| - BIG HUNGRY 702 wrote:
- ok, even when champ was in his prime QB's wouldnt throw his way yet he still managed picks.
but no qbs havent taken it to the extent they have with nnamdi.. champ would get thrown at multiple times every game still nnamdi doesnt even get one pass per game in a season thrown his way.. i think its cuz the qbs recognize him as the next champ bailey and they made that mistake by still throwing to champs side and he picked them off... they wont make the same mistake with nnamdi.. the extent qbs are goin to not throw to nnamdis side these days is way worse then champ has seen.. | |
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