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raymond-bell New MS Member
Number of posts : 65 Registration date : 2009-09-29
| Subject: using same formations= cheesing??? 2009-11-26, 05:46 | |
| hey guys just a quick question what are your guys opinions on running your entire offense out of the same formation and im not talking about like undercenter or shotgun im talkin specific formations like snugs flip or something like that. i played a kid that used i think it was snugs flip the entire game and it was effective to a certain extent but i found myself getting a bit pissed off then thinking about it after the game realized he wasnt doing any cheap? he wasnt manipulating my deffenders? it was clean, the same formation with probably like 6 or 7 different plays. so my question to ya'll is do you think this is a cheap way to play the game or is it cheesing all together? now that i look back on it in my opinion i think its clean he didnt win so maybe that had something to do with it but just wondering what ya'll think. thanks guys | |
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Crunk Moderator
Number of posts : 2578 Registration date : 2008-03-10
| Subject: Re: using same formations= cheesing??? 2009-11-26, 06:46 | |
| I usually run everything out of the near formation and dont find it cheesing. It's more of finding a scheme to throw the defense off. | |
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raymond-bell New MS Member
Number of posts : 65 Registration date : 2009-09-29
| Subject: Re: using same formations= cheesing??? 2009-11-26, 08:08 | |
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- I usually run everything out of the near formation and dont find it cheesing. It's more of finding a scheme to throw the defense off.
thats how i see it but i know and can see where people would find it kinda cheap and cheesing a little bit but if ya cant stop it then theres nothing wrong with accepting the fact that maybe just maybe someone else might be better at madden than you. lol people choose PHI, NO, or NE, playbooks and sit in shotgun all day so i dont see how sitting in a certain formation is all that much different. | |
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so much swag Hall of Fame MS Member
Number of posts : 1839 Registration date : 2009-08-09
| Subject: Re: using same formations= cheesing??? 2009-11-26, 11:48 | |
| if you sit in shotgun all day!! that's cheesing!!!! i don't care what you say about tom brady. he's under center 46% of the time..i look. but on line player's stay in shotgun like they can't be touch..lololo.that's cheesing. | |
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iTz K1ng FuZ10n Hall of Fame MS Member
Number of posts : 1174 Registration date : 2008-11-02
| Subject: Re: using same formations= cheesing??? 2009-11-26, 12:18 | |
| if there in shotgun all day and they can be touched..... maybe you should try to get some pressure on the qb and dont drop back every one in coverage like i garentee you do and half of madden players do | |
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Mcnair2Wycheck Exclusive Member
Number of posts : 1403 Registration date : 2008-11-24
| Subject: Re: using same formations= cheesing??? 2009-11-26, 13:14 | |
| Not cheesing, should not be too hard to figure out on D though. | |
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so much swag Hall of Fame MS Member
Number of posts : 1839 Registration date : 2009-08-09
| Subject: Re: using same formations= cheesing??? 2009-11-26, 14:11 | |
| maybe you need to stop working in the gym .and work on your brain,because that's the muscle you need working saying that stupid sh!t. to me. i don't drop everybody in coverage i know how to get a pass rush going all game, and if you know everything give me the powerball number's then!!!! or shut the fuk up. | |
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DaTBa1LHaWK Hall of Fame MS Member
Number of posts : 1494 Registration date : 2009-03-08
| Subject: Re: using same formations= cheesing??? 2009-11-26, 15:51 | |
| if u have really good schemes, y stop running em if ppl cant stop it??? i could understand 1 play, but a scheme is a whole different thing.. thats understandable.. | |
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pkismyname Hall of Fame MS Member
Number of posts : 1145 Registration date : 2008-12-27
| Subject: Re: using same formations= cheesing??? 2009-11-26, 15:57 | |
| ACtually it makes it easier for the D because you will figure out all the plays soon enough.
And for the guy who said staying in shotgun all game is cheesing, You are either terrible on defense or no wait that's it.
I'd love to face people who sit in shotgun all day. | |
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instantclassic91 All-Pro MS Member
Number of posts : 289 Registration date : 2009-01-10
| Subject: Re: using same formations= cheesing??? 2009-11-26, 16:09 | |
| naw i dont find anything wrong with staying in one formation the whole time...i would do this if i find that the D has a tough time with it ...buliding schemes formations is good stuff | |
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c4jun All-Pro MS Member
Number of posts : 387 Registration date : 2009-03-18
| Subject: Re: using same formations= cheesing??? 2009-11-26, 18:50 | |
| I don't care how you run your offense. I just play the game and let things work themselves out. Its kinda boring when people do the same things on O but you have to get used to it. | |
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IRISHFBFAN1 Rookie MS Member
Number of posts : 167 Registration date : 2009-01-26
| Subject: Re: using same formations= cheesing??? 2009-11-26, 20:03 | |
| Running out of one formation the whole game is not cheesing at all. Not even close. The good players usually only use 4-5 formations anyway with multiple schemes set around plays in those formations which will have an answer to what the defense has in store. I would love to find that one formation, a formation with all my audibles set within it. Go to the LOS with one to three different plays, and read the defense, call play accordingly. You don't have to use every play in your playbook, you don't have to use every formation in your playbook, the key is to find a handful of formations and build schemes. If it is only one formation, thats even better. | |
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Sun All-Pro MS Member
Number of posts : 329 Registration date : 2009-09-18
| Subject: Re: using same formations= cheesing??? 2009-11-26, 20:35 | |
| A wide variety of formations is a good gameplan to start the game. It keeps the opponent guessing on what'll come out next. The problem is, after a while, he/she's going to figure out which plays you use with which formations. That is the LAST thing you want; a predictable offense.
The purpose of using few formations with many plays in each is to force your opponent in respecting every possible option. On the other hand, having few formations is great because it means you'll work a lot with each one you use. You'll know them inside out and you'll know what to call in what situation.
I would also like to point out a NFL team that barely changes formations; Indianapolis. When I watch a Colts' game, I'm amazed at how well their scheme works. The first thing that comes to my mind is "wow, are they always in Gun Doubles/SB Doubles?". That's a reason why their offense works so well, the defense can't guess what's going to come out. You have to do the same thing. | |
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WestFo3 All-Pro MS Member
Number of posts : 350 Registration date : 2009-11-03
| Subject: Re: using same formations= cheesing??? 2009-11-26, 21:49 | |
| I use 2 formations most of the game. Got a good 6 plays for each one though and then I got a few good plays in shotgun that i'll add in if I need a change. | |
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brazil Rookie MS Member
Number of posts : 156 Registration date : 2009-08-17
| Subject: Re: using same formations= cheesing??? 2009-11-29, 04:21 | |
| Running all of your plays from the same formation can be a good strategy. | |
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Madden's Finest 200 Veteran MS Member
Number of posts : 622 Registration date : 2009-10-01
| Subject: Re: using same formations= cheesing??? 2009-11-29, 08:24 | |
| I just got back from a tournament with squeeze, nephew, dynasty, etc. Tons of anaheim competitors. One guy stayed in flip trips about 90% of the time. One guy stayed in shotgun tight about the whole game. The top tournament players use about 1-3 formations (excluding goaline) Its not cheesing, it's a scheme. | |
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Ellard All-Pro MS Member
Number of posts : 390 Registration date : 2009-04-20
| Subject: Re: using same formations= cheesing??? 2009-11-30, 17:39 | |
| the only thing i consider cheesing is, scrambling off to the sidelines with vick/young and inching up to the LOS so players bite on the fact you might run the ball for 8+ yards and then chunk it off to the sidelines or the guy that bit | |
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raymond-bell New MS Member
Number of posts : 65 Registration date : 2009-09-29
| Subject: Re: using same formations= cheesing??? 2009-11-30, 20:08 | |
| - RealSpitNoDrool wrote:
- the only thing i consider cheesing is, scrambling off to the sidelines with vick/young and inching up to the LOS so players bite on the fact you might run the ball for 8+ yards and then chunk it off to the sidelines or the guy that bit
yes i consider this cheesing too they stretch your zones by rolling out it gets really anoying im deffinetly a pocket passer i use tenesee and philly and i rarely scramble not intentionaly at least ill try to get the ball down the field before i take of and run with it i dont ever really rollout i will every now and again though. i use probably 2 formations total i used to use a ton but found it was just easier for me to use less and focus on the plays in those formations. | |
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AshBlackstone All-Pro MS Member
Number of posts : 374 Registration date : 2009-10-05
| Subject: Re: using same formations= cheesing??? 2009-11-30, 23:29 | |
| - so much swag wrote:
- if you sit in shotgun all day!! that's cheesing!!!! i don't care what you say about tom brady. he's under center 46% of the time..i look. but on line player's stay in shotgun like they can't be touch..lololo.that's cheesing.
So let's get this straight. Nanoing is not cheesing, but using the shotgun is cheesing. I'm not going to complain about either, because it's part of the culture. You probably just hate the shotgun because your blitzes don't get to the QB, and it frustrates you. Plenty of teams on different levels of football stay in the shotgun most of the game. I went to the Universty of Florida. My Gators are in the shotgun 99 percent of the time. I realize that's not the NFL, but my point is...it's not that ridiculous. The funny thing is, I don't even know why I'm defending this. I prefer the I formation, and only go to the shotgun when I need to. 70 percent of my plays are run under center. But I don't have a problem with someone going out of the shotgun all day, because it makes them one dimensional. No one is running for chunks of yardage out of the gun. There aren't enough good running plays in shotgun formations to make a formidable rushing attack. I always pray that my opponents run a primarily shotgun based offense. It makes them easier to shutdown. When your opponent is running with 2 backs, 2 receivers, and a TE all game, that keeps you guessing a lot more.
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W A V Y D R E Veteran MS Member
Number of posts : 824 Registration date : 2008-12-30
| Subject: Re: using same formations= cheesing??? 2009-12-01, 00:01 | |
| same formations = good scheming
i dont think any team in football dont switch up dere formation every rip thats just to much work | |
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so much swag Hall of Fame MS Member
Number of posts : 1839 Registration date : 2009-08-09
| Subject: Re: using same formations= cheesing??? 2009-12-01, 02:55 | |
| wow!!! ash i'm on your mind and for what?? get a girl,so what i said staying in shotgun is cheesing,my blitz'es can get to any qb in any formation. it's my oppinion. you dont gota like it! bottom line i can give a f*ck how you feel..take the tong's out of your a$$. | |
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AshBlackstone All-Pro MS Member
Number of posts : 374 Registration date : 2009-10-05
| Subject: Re: using same formations= cheesing??? 2009-12-01, 02:58 | |
| - so much swag wrote:
- wow!!! ash i'm on your mind and for what?? get a girl,so what i said staying in shotgun is cheesing,my blitz'es can get to any qb in any formation. it's my oppinion. you dont gota like it! bottom line i can give a f*ck how you feel..take the tong's out of your a$$.
In other words, anything that you can't stop is cheesing. Got it. That's all you had to say. | |
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WestFo3 All-Pro MS Member
Number of posts : 350 Registration date : 2009-11-03
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so much swag Hall of Fame MS Member
Number of posts : 1839 Registration date : 2009-08-09
| Subject: Re: using same formations= cheesing??? 2009-12-01, 03:03 | |
| he hurt's my head,...goto bed ash! | |
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Mcnair2Wycheck Exclusive Member
Number of posts : 1403 Registration date : 2008-11-24
| Subject: Re: using same formations= cheesing??? 2009-12-01, 13:47 | |
| - RealSpitNoDrool wrote:
- the only thing i consider cheesing is, scrambling off to the sidelines with vick/young and inching up to the LOS so players bite on the fact you might run the ball for 8+ yards and then chunk it off to the sidelines or the guy that bit
I sometimes do this when a play breaks down and they are not containing me, but someone who uses this as an actual part of their gameplan should be easy to sack/intercept. I love when people use Vick or Pat White against me. I use Young's speed as an asset rather than gameplanning around it a whole lot. | |
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