Madden Wishlist Please Listen to my Ideas Madden Programmers

BRB have you played Ncaa football 10 Now theres variety!

i actually havent but from past versions i played i wouldnt doubt it. lol

Offensive playbooks in that are way better and are relevant to the teams Offense. Floirda runs Spread Option, Geogia Tech runs triple option.

Here are some ideas I'd like to add to my orginal Thread.

1- Man on Man Coverage
1a- Players should utilize inside and outside technique when covering anyone split out or an eligible tight end. The technique they use should be dependant on their safety help.

2- CPU QBs should audible plays, change protection, and use hot routes.
2a- The frequency and effectiveness of this should depend on the opposing QBs AWR rating.
2b- Cpu Qbs should not always make the right audible. Again this depends on his AWR rating. Even the best QBs make some mistakes, its rare though.
2c-The Cpu's Audibles should actually be based on what they see. EXAMPLE- If I ive been showing the same blitz the whole game and in fact he has been blitzing, Good QBs will change the protection.

3- RBs running into there offensive line.
3a- When a Rb runs into there own offensive line they shouldn't just be deflected to the side of him.
aa- The type of back you are depends on the interaction between the O lineman. If your a physical back he might just push on the lineman to gain a couple yards. If your a scatback he might bounce back or juke to the side to look for a an open hole.

4- RB vision should be an attribue for RB's.
4a- RB vision should affect the Cpu's ability to spot the open hole and follow his blocks correctlly.

5- Team captain on defense should shout out Useful Dialogue, not just random things to make it sound Real.
5a- It should be simple though, I don't expect unrealistic chatter. I expect things like "Watch the Pass", Watch the Run", and this should actually be based on the tendencies of the opposing teams in certain formations.

6- This is Very Important! DEFENSIVE PURSUIT ANGLES.

7- You might have to bring back QB vision, Hear me out.
7a- You have to because the main strength of a Defensive zone is to read the Qbs eyes. NFL defenses don't just go into zone and play that zone. They go into there zones and move according to the QB's Eyes.
7b- You might have to revise it to make it more User Friendly.
7c- The defense should react to where the QB is looking when their in zone.

8- Ill end with something Positive.

- Tackling is the best its ever been in Madden.

- theres only a couple tackles that show up to much a little work and it will be fine.

- Tackling might be the most important thing in the game, so im glad they worked on it so much last year.

chrisc2006 wrote:

You can't throw the ball more than 3 yards with Jarmacus accurately.

HAHA.. True true.. I completely disagree with the create a playbook mode and be able to use it online, for the reasons BRB said.. WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY to many exploits with that, someone is going to create a play that is impossible to stop or something, and then your going to be whining about how it was a horrible idea and needs to be taken out

Thats a gameplay issue not a create a playbook issue. If there was a play that was unstoppable in real life why don't they use it. Are you understanding my point. theres no unstoppable play in real life so there should be no unstoppable play on Madden.

imahawk57 wrote:

Thats a gameplay issue not a create a playbook issue. If there was a play that was unstoppable in real life why don't they use it. Are you understanding my point. theres no unstoppable play in real life so there should be no unstoppable play on Madden.

But thats what most people dont get, Madden isnt real life.. Their are things possible in a video game that arent in real life.. Its IMPOSSIBLE to get it exactly like real life, theirs just no way to do.. Because if you add one thing then another thing will faulter, and it will keep going on and on.. Thats why im tired of these wish list things, some of the ideas are good, but you guys dont understand that they dont have an infinite amount of technology, they do the best they can.. Its up to you to work with what they give you

Madden's suppossed to be a Simulation Style Football game. I understand it won't be perfect, I understand there are certain animations that i will see again and again. The subject at hand is unstoppable plays, If you make a game that has any unstoppable plays I might as well throw it in the trash, cause whats the point of playing it?

imahawk57 wrote:

Madden's suppossed to be a Simulation Style Football game. I understand it won't be perfect, I understand there are certain animations that i will see again and again. The subject at hand is unstoppable plays, If you make a game that has any unstoppable plays I might as well throw it in the trash, cause whats the point of playing it?

EA is not creating unstoppable plays, the fags that look for glitches all day are.. You think that if EA created a custom playbook option and you could make your own plays, that they would go through EVERY POSSIBLE combination of routes and formations?? NO.. They are just going to create the option to do it, and then within 2 weeks of the release their will be glitchers running their custom playbooks online, its a horrible idea to allow them to be used online, and everyone except you seems to grasp that concept

The problem isn't the routes or plays that would be made. It is the Defensive AI that needs to be smarter. If someone is running the same play over and over the AI should adjust. Also I explained an idea for blocking engagement and how it could be improved which would help. My point is that a cheeser should not be able to cheese because the defensive AI should be smarter and there should be other minor gameplay adjustments that should be made. Take a Look at my original thread it shows some ways to to do that

i think if think if they could do that it would take nano's out of the game too cuz you do the blitz more than 5 times a game and it wont be effective anymore. lol

what are you referring to BRB?

imahawk57 wrote:

Ok Chris then in the current madden how can you tell the difference between controlling Peyton Manning and Jamarcus Russell?

lol so by ur idea if u were throwing with jrock and u were throwing to a wide open WR streaking down the field he would adjust his throw so that he throws it directly to a DB that isnt near the WR. i mean this isnt gonna happen everytime but jrock will do this much more often than peyton. lol u pretty much have this in the game already. i threw a WR fade with jrock downfield once and my TE on a streak caught it. that was the day i moved away from my beloved raiders.

u really don't understand the online game. all these ideas are ideas that would be kinda fun to implement if u were playing franchise or against CPU all the time but this would completely ruin online play. y would anyone play with anyone else but the colts if u can just throw it randomly and he'll decide if it's a completion or he throws it away.

Your not understanding correctly.

first of all Peyton would not correct your passes everytime, It would be more rare than your thinking, and even more rare than bad QBs. You decide to which WR hes throwing to, if you make a bad decision and throw into triple coverage, Peyton will Sometimes adjust your throw so no one can catch it. He doesn't make the decisions for you but will sometimes will make the smart play automatically. Peyon Manning will still throw INT's. The problem with madden is you can't throw the ball anywhere on the FIELD, it has to go somewhere by the intended WR, which causes unwanted INT's. Someone just proposed a NFL Blitz passing system to me. He said you can throw the ball anywhere you want it.

crazyblack001 wrote:

its a good idea IMO if they cleaned up the gameplay so there wernt plays that are so effective like off tackle ect ect. sure some plays are better then otheres in real life but not like that

clean gamplay and this idea would be great IMO. i think they need to have more customization in the playbooks. if that means create your own or just adding a bunch more and making them different i dont really care. but we need more of an option

you kids just havent played madden long enuff. there will always (ALWAYS) be certain plays that are more effective than others and those plays will be called cheesing. off tackle this year is far more stoppable than FB dive was last year. this year we call off tackle cheesing, last year we called FB dive cheesing. 2 years ago offensive strafe RC was easy and last year they took that out but RC was still in the game. ppl called offensive strafe cheesing and then last year ppl called a more difficult RC cheesing. there will always be things that work really well and they will always be called cheesing. the gameplay has been cleaned up tremendously since 2 years ago but there is still complaining. there really will always be complaining about how it's not good enough which is fine because there is always room for improvement. what bothers me is that newer guys that just came onto the madden scene seem to be holding out for that game where the gameplay is so refined that there would be no cheesing and that simply is not going to happen. enjoy the game understand there will always be fault if u look for it and there will always be things that are more effective than other things and poeple will call this cheesing.

EA has done so much to limit cheesing and they've limited the game in so many ways that it makes me sad. remember the days of formation shifts? that brought so much creativity to offensives and really gave you a feeling of being a creative offensive game instead of everyone running similiar stuff but they had to take it out because it led to too many things that were over-effective i.e. cheesing. this is the same reason they took out the create ur own playbook feature. do u really want to go online and play WR screen, offtackle, HBDS, slot screen, post corner RC, etc, from the same formation? i guarantee that if wat u want is in the game this would be wat everyone would run myself and urself included. why? because they work and because you want to win.

imahawk57 wrote:

Your not understanding correctly.

first of all Peyton would not correct your passes everytime, It would be more rare than your thinking, and even more rare than bad QBs. You decide to which WR hes throwing to, if you make a bad decision and throw into triple coverage, Peyton will Sometimes adjust your throw so no one can catch it. He doesn't make the decisions for you but will sometimes will make the smart play automatically. Peyon Manning will still throw INT's. The problem with madden is you can't throw the ball anywhere on the FIELD, it has to go somewhere by the intended WR, which causes unwanted INT's. Someone just proposed a NFL Blitz passing system to me. He said you can throw the ball anywhere you want it.

lol no i understand perfectly. he would sometimes but he would do it more often than any other QB so why would i ever play with anyone else if he's going to give me the greatest chance of correcting my mistakes? no matter how rare you make it this will always be the case and if u make it so rare that this isnt the case then it means that it's so rare that it doesnt matter which makes this pointless. if u put 20 buck on a game and peyton will fix ur throw 1 out of 10 times while romo will fix ur throw 1 out of 30 times give me a reason i would play with romo rather than peyton.

stop trying to get the developers to fix your game. i have no idea why anyone would want more random events to happen that takes the game out of your hands. lets compare it to offensive holding in this game. it happens about 2-3 times a game. you have no control over it watsoever. you break off a 30 yrd run and it's very fustrating to have it called back by holding especially because u have no control over it right? now with your idea so peyton fixes ur throws 2-3 times a game. you have no idea when he will because it will be random so you have no control over this. you play great defense the whole game u've been blitzing him crazy but then in a crucial point of the game u fake a blitz and drop into coverage and highlight wayne on a slant. u have a CB LB FS in yellow in the area and peyton throws it out of bounds to fix ur throw. how pissed would you be? any idea of chances that takes control out of the players hands does nothing to help the gameplay.

Well don't you think there should be advantage if you play with a better QB? Of course Id rather play with Peyton Manning over Tony Romo because hes a better Qb. But Maybe I don't like playing with Colts defense because there not as good as other defenses. This is the decison you make when you select a team to play with. I just got a better idea from someone with the passing game. Anyways you should never be satisfied with the game. You should always be on the makers butt that way they give us the best possible game. There shouldn't Be cheesers at all because you shouldn't be able to pick the same play over and over and make it work. What the point of playing the game if someone can pick the same play and make it work for 6 yards everytime? Your giving the Makers too much credit. Remember the first Madden on Xbox 360. What did you think of that one?

i'm not sure if ur joking anymore? are u just trolling us? you really don't see a accuracy difference between jamarcus russell and peyton? go into practice mode. put the defense in cover 2 and pick a shotty play with slants. i want u to throw 20 slants peyton to wayne and count the number of completions then pick oakland against the same defense and see how many u get russel to schliens. come back and tell me u see no difference. if u do i wanna know ur secret cuz i would love to get russel to work with the great raider defense.

next u keep talking about unstoppable plays. what are these plays because if u know them u can probably sell it to problem or kstarr or anyone of those guys that play for a living for a couple of grand. what plays r u saying u can run the entire game and it will work everytime? offtackle? u think if i blitz everyone and contain and user the safety it will still work everytime? do u really think u can come out in GL offtackle and run it the same way every single play of a game and i wont be able to stop it? these plays are HARD to stop not unstoppable. wat makes it hard to stop is that you have to commit a lot of ur defense to stopping these plays which leaves u open to other things from the same formation.

with that being said it comes down to play calling just like in real life. you come out and u run off tackle a couple of times and ur opponent has to overcommitt to stop that, then u start throwing in PA and short throws. the giants a few years ago came out and ran the ball, the defense has to send LBs to blitz to plug the whole therefore committing to the run which openned up the PA.

you clearly don't understand the game. i understand you are a young newbie but try to take criticism better especially if it seems like everyone is against you. it's a life lesson that you'll have to learn sooner or later if you want a job and keep it. no one here is coming here specifically to try to shoot down ur ideas but some of them are so horrific that we can't help ourselves and tell u they are purely stupid. we understand that because we've been playing the game a lot, lol maybe a little bit too much for some of us even. so take the criticism of ur ideas that suck and try to improve on the ones ppl seem ok with. everyone is attacking maybe 2 or 3 out of ur 20 ideas. drop the dumb ones and move on.

but seriously. what play can u pick and make it work for 6 everytime? this would help all of us.

Their is an advantage if you play with Peyton over J Marc.. You get about 50 more accuracy and awareness ratings, if YOUU make the decision to throw into triple coverage, then it SHOULD be a pick.. Thats like some loser picking the Colts and just throwing the ball to Reggie Wayne and hoping he catches it, and when hes covered Peyton will "adjust" his throw to make it sail out of bounds

yea but what if i just want to throw it away and im in the pocket then what do i do?

ummm i believe that's against the rules... just like in the NFL

btw still waiting on that unstoppable play for 6 everytime. i got a money game later and i'd love to have something like that.

Actually you can throw the ball away as long as there is a intended receiver near by, QBs do all the time to avoid sacks. But with madden now i have to throw to someone and I don't have the option of throwing into the ground near a WR. This is where a lot of interceptons happen instead of incompletes

your right there is no unstoppable play but there are plays that are extemely hard to stop. what im saying is that i shouldn't have to blitz all my players and use DE contain and control the safety just to stop a simple running play that only works because the defensive AI takes terrible persuit angles or doesn't realize hes been doing this the whole game. In the NFL they things like this because there is no play that is this effective

imahawk57 wrote:

your right there is no unstoppable play but there are plays that are extemely hard to stop. what im saying is that i shouldn't have to blitz all my players and use DE contain and control the safety just to stop a simple running play that only works because the defensive AI takes terrible persuit angles or doesn't realize hes been doing this the whole game. In the NFL they things like this because there is no play that is this effective

there are plays this effective in the NFL but thats not the point. its a video game so u can't expect reality but lets take the argument from your point of view. in the year LT broke the single season TD record the chargers ran was is bascially strong power O to the left side when dielman mcneil and hardwick and the RG pulling. this was possibly the best 4 linemen in the league at their respective positions and they worked really well as a team combined with LT's abilities. this is what they based their offense around that year and had great success. teams had to come up and bring a safety in the box, have a LB assigned to contain the outside and hope to shoot the gap with a blitzing MLB. teams understood this but still couldnt stop it successfully because if they over committed to this rivers audible to a screen or a counter run to the opposite side.

how is this different than off tackle? yes u have to committ a lot to it but the great defensive teams and coaches found a way to commit to stopping this and took away river's favorite throws. see wat u want is not real life at all. what you want is to call something and have the computer stop it without trying to adjust and make changes on ur own. everything that u've suggested makes the game easier. u want the qb to help u throw, u dont want to commit players to stopping the run, etc... wat your looking for is the programmer to help you play the game and make it easier for you, in essence make it more "newbie friendly" but wat you don't understand is that if they do this then there will be even more cheesing because the game gets easier.

have u ever considered wat would happen if say u can stop offtackle with a simple cover 3? wats the point of playing defense then? you could just sit in that all game since it can stop the run, have great pass coverage, and shut down anything. this is not how football is played. is a team is run heavy the defense knows they have to bring run blitzes to slow down the run, if they're a passing team u see a lot more coverage or pass blitzes to get to the QB. we all know u can't get to the QB fast only rushing 4 right? so do u feel that u shouldn't have to bring 5 or 6 to try to get to the QB on a passing down if u want the sack? they should just get in themselves right? see it's YOUR fault that you can't adjust ur defense to play the run, it shouldn't be the game's responsibility to make adjustments for you to stop the run just because they're doing it over and over again.

Your exagerrating my point of view and are jumping to conclusions to what you think I want in the game.

If you play cover 3 and whoever runs the ball, no doubt there should be positive yardage gained a MAJORITY of the time not all the time because the lineman and linebacker should still be able to make a play from time to time. That is one example of you exagerrating my point of view.

I like your argument about LT, People run plays that are that effective without the personell to support it. Also Im saying you have to commit way to much to stop a play. If I simply man up with dbs and bring both safeties into the box which would be nine in the box, they should be able to stop it. But you gave an example where id have to do an all out blitz with DE contain and you control the safety, thats too much to stop one play, the reason you have to do this is because of the gameplay and the AIs inabillity to make plays, take correct persuit angles-which is the reason its so easy to run outside and other things.

I do feel you need to bring extra people to apply pressure depending on your d line. Which goes into my other suggestions about man on man defense in the game. You simply exagerrated your last paragraph when you describe what i want in the game.

Im sure I want a lot of the same things you want but it seems like you have already made up your mind on what I want. You think I want the game to be easier. That is wrong

I suggested that passing system because there is no way to just throw the ball away in the pocket. Which i had to explain to you earlier is legal if there is a WR in the area. I want my Qb to be able to throw anywhere on the field. I have now got some more information on how you can improve this in the game. Someone suggested to me the NFL blitz passing system because you can throw it anywhere. Which gives you complete control of the QB. I also want a QB vision application on this that way zones defenses can read the QBs eyes and react to them.

Does that make the game easier?