speaking of which, i ran into another cheese today, not even 20 minutes ago..his name is kilo4192...he's a level 20 with a 133-58 record..I found him under play now...I don't have the patience to sit in a lobby and challenge people and them decline my invite...so i play right away to avoid the wait...anyhow he picked the cardinals and all, i pick the raiders and we get our boogie on, on the sticks...this dude starts using hbds and screens, more then any other play...he scored on me first, then used the hbds to convert a 2pt conversion...after that, it was a wrap...i had to go hard on him, and it resulted in a 35-11 beating...he quit in the 3rd quarter when i stopped him on downs....i could of been an asshole and ran score on the cpu, but i didn't want to waste any more of my time...so i quitted and counted the game, and got my W....