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PostSubject: Re: Strafe Cathing   Strafe Cathing - Page 3 Empty2008-08-17, 22:05

oooookkkk...and wat u not understandin dawg is that if u throw a good pass u dont even have to user catch lol...i never user catch caus i throw good passes to OPEN wr's not in traffic into triple coverage and user catch....yeah it is easier to user defend on 09...wat im sayin is that there is a VERY VERY VERY thin line between a skill and an abusive feature...im not worried tooo much except for the obvious offensive pass interference that is not called wen ppl jus slam there wr through my db's

i enjoy reading yo post u can post wat eva u want but all im sayin is u sound a lil whiny bout this feature...its up to the player to decide if this is a disadvantage or not...it doesnt matter to me eitha side the coin lands...i throw good passes and to open wr's and dont have to user catch AT ALL....how bout this bro....TELL ME HOW I AM ABLE TO NOT "USER CATCH"...then maybe ill see yo side of this argument/discussion we are having
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PostSubject: Re: Strafe Cathing   Strafe Cathing - Page 3 Empty2008-08-19, 15:10

Buddah! you and taxboy are the ones that don't "understand" and since both of you have said you "never" used the "strafe catch" or a have ever "user catch" for that matter you probably never will "understand" cause "user catching" is a skill... that means... not relying on the CPU to do it for you. Pulse! players with "user catching" skill could catch at a higher success rate than just relying on the CPU to do it for you... because at times last year the CPU would just let the ball go right past him... no matter how good the pass was. How you can comment on a feature you never evened used is beyond me... all I've been saying is that EA has took "user control" away from us this year by not allowing "strafing" on offense.

"EXAMPLE"
This year if a WR... lets say (R. Moss) is 1 on 1 going deep from good "play calling" or off "play action" or just from your opponent calling a bad "defensive play" and he has a step on the defender going deep and if you throw it deep to him it should be a catch for large yardage or even 6... but here's the catch... if your playing someone that has "user defending" skills and this might not include you and taxboy since both of you said that you never used "strafe catching" or "user catching" cause on the flip side its "user defending" meaning you manually defend against the pass... not relying on the CPU... the player will switch off to the defender and turbo the defender and then use "strafe" to turn around and meet the ball and be in better position for the "user catch" to get the INT using "strafe" and since on offense as the receiver you can't "strafe" it's no way to defend against this... cause as the "user controlled" receiver if you can't turn with the defender using "strafe" to meet the ball and battle for the catch your at a disadvantage... reason... cause your "locked" in an over the shoulder catch, with your back to the ball cause you can't "strafe" to turn around with the defender and its so easy for the "user controlled" defender using "strafe" to get a INT. I hope that was "explained" good enough for you... I tried to make it as simple as I could.

EA! wanted to limit players on offense this year and the deep ball and they have done just that. Everybody! was bitching last year about "animation catching" and that was the "rocket catch" and "spectacular catch" but yet, there still in the games, just toned down this year... EA! removed "strafing" so the deep ball wouldn't be as affective this year... since ppl like to put fast defenders on offense and bomb away. The players that did that like to use Oakland (there defense), saints (bush, henderson) bears (hester) and denver (champ) and the players that liked to abuse the feature you "keep referring" to is "Animation glitch catch" was pats (moss) loins (Williams and johnson) and bengals (c. johnson) because they had a high (spectacular catch) rating but like I said these "animation catches" are still in the game but toned down this year.

I agree with you own that good "play calling" will put you in 1 on 1 situation to complete a pass and trowing into triple coverage is a "bad idea" why anyone would do that is beyond me. I just want one of you to explain to me the benefit of removing "strafe" form the offensive side of the ball... because good play calling will get you 1 on 1 situation that can't be taken advantage of this year without "strafe catching". what I mean by this is the deep ball... like in the NFL you want the SS or FS to bite on the play action or to double down on your TE and hit them deep... you don't want to "strafe catch" on "slants" to the inside or outside and "out routes" to the outside or inside cause if you try to "user catch" or "strafe catch" it throws the route off.

Anyway! like I stated earlier in my post... its beyond me how someone can comment on a "feature" that they said they haven't never even used "strafe catching" or even "user catching" and I'm sure your glade it's been removed because now your not at a constant "disadvantage" from players that have "the skill" to throw a pass then switch to the receiver and "user catch" the pass themselves. EA! wanted to make the game this year on a more even playing Field for players that didn't have the ability to "user catch"... I now understand why you and taxboy are so "excited" about the removal of this feature, because you couldn't do it in the first place... but please feel free to try and explain it to me. If you can!
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PostSubject: Re: Strafe Cathing   Strafe Cathing - Page 3 Empty2008-08-19, 22:48

haha u funny dawg....but here it is....i throw the ball to open wr's wether in between zones or 1 on 1 out drags post and slants....i user pick...yes i do but i only started doin that caus ppl would throw the ball into tripple coverage to moss walker marshall and all those other guys u named and would jus rocket catch or as u say "user catch"....sure it might take a lil skill to press the L2 button and stand there whille ball is coming and press and triangle...hahahahahaa skill right sure bro...anyways if u wasnt such a deep pass hoe den lettin the cpu do wat it is suppose to do which is go get the ball u wouldnt have a problem but now they are forcing ppl to make good throws to open ppl or someone who has excellent user pick skills like myself will get to it if it is in arms reach...i dont user catch caus i dont have to i have the "SKILL" to not throw the ball into coverage...i can comment on this topic caus i have been BUTT FUCKED by that sorry ass feature and yes i sho is glad that it is gon and ppl are forced to play football...and another thing...u would let the cpu do all the work and run the route but it is skill to click on to the wr and press triangle ahahaha come on dawg be real wit yoself right now all u doin is jus makin the wr jump for the ball whether it be straight up or wether it be up away from the defender...i throw the ball away from the defender and NEVER have a problem with the cpu catchin by passes...how bout u jus controll the wr from jump run around in circle and call for the ball and have the cpu throw it to u or wait how bout lets have 11 ppl playin all the positions how bout that lol take all the cpu out of the game den haha u a joke dawg pressing L2 and triangle is skill huh...damn guess there is a fine line from skill and no skill guess u eitha press the button or u dont right and that is skill...ima pic a wr from the get go not look at coverage or even worry bout coverage and jus throw him da ball ALL GAME THATS MY GAMEPLAN haha that fits yo description of someone that is bitchin about a feature...like i said there is a very small % of the ppl that didnt use those catches wen "user catching" if u strafe catched then that was wat was happenin ALL GAME....they took the deep ball away unless there was a clear open wr down field which is real ppl jus dont get blown away off the snap everyone doesnt have 80" vertical and everyone dont catch 1 hand fallin backwards catches in front of 4 ppl...ppl do throw dumb passes into coverage so dont sit there and TRY and tell me otherwise...that feature was abused beyond reasonin and until they figure out how to make it to where u cant do those things den they wont put it back in...EA has put more user controls into the game for example running the ball is better user control returns are better user control playmaker is more user control so get out of here like and stop actin like we playin head coach or superstar mode like u can only control 1 person or nobody on the field it is 1 stupid feature and if they took it out of defense it would be the same thing caus the cpu be pickin s*** off as well...

strafing caused alot of problems...dumb pass interference call those animation catches horrible game plans like throwin deep all game jus ppl playin a game and not playin football so they took it out O WELL GOT DAMN GET OVA IT ITS DUMB..im successful and i dont use it on offense and im sure u are jus fine wit out it caus u kno fa sho thats its cheap cheez
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PostSubject: Re: Strafe Cathing   Strafe Cathing - Page 3 Empty2008-08-19, 23:45

lol! Buddah! do you even read what the hell I post...sometimes I wonder... I've been saying from the start "user catching" and "animation catching" are completely different.

Anybody! can let the cpu catch for them and throw to an open receive thats why EA did away with "strafe" on offense to make it more "user friendly" to "everyone" this year... and yes if was as easily as you stated to do "user catching" and If you had all this "user skill" you could and should have defended against "user catching" last year when PPL could "strafe" on offense... but like I've said in my post it was a battle for positioning between the "user controlled" receiver and "user controlled" defender and the best position won that battle. I'll miss those battles this year and that challenge... but not everybody played "elite players" last year and some players prayed upon "newbies" that had no idea how to "user catch" or "user defend" and thats why EA did away with it this year to make Madden "user friendly" to everyone.

The "spectacular catch" and "rocket catch" can still be done this year... even with "strafe" being out of the offense so quite saying that stupid s*** about thats not why it's in the game this year... that was a glitch catch that the CPU did last year... "everybody" hated it and it was a glitch in madden 08.

"Example"
hot route moss to do a streak throw a high bullet pass to the out or inside and hold triangle after receiver gets 15 yrds down Field and 80% of the time they would ether "spectacular catch" or "rocket catch" and not "one time" when you do this do you try and "user control" the receiver cause it was a timing thing to get the glitch to work... some PPL could BOMB and do it but only about 30% of the time because again it was a timing thing and the rush would get to them B4 they could get it off in time... thats one of the many reason everybody "nano blitzed" last year on just about every play last year.

This is why "animation glitch catching" and "user catching" are completely different and have nothing to do with each other what so ever and like I said.... EA! removed "strafe" to make it more "user friendly" to everyone. Have you played NCAA 09? you can "user catch" in that game using "strafe" but the "spectacular catch" and "rocket catch" are hardly even seen... just another "example" that it was a "glitch" that has been toned down from last years games and not the case of "strafe" being remove from madden 09.... they just wanted the game to appeal online to a bigger audience this year and by taken "strafe catching" out of the game and the tightening up the deep pass they have done just that... forcing player to play the short to medium passing game for madden 09. It seems now players score more with defense than there offense but when your a true player you can adapt to the game.... right! Wink


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PostSubject: Re: Strafe Cathing   Strafe Cathing - Page 3 Empty2008-08-21, 22:05

from 08 to 09 there is a bigger difference...they are forcing ppl to play more of a football style which is within 30 yrds not deep passes all game but forces ppl to have a gameplan...the only thing is that the simplest offense can be the beat u...

strafe catching in ncaa was ok but i still dont think that it is a big deal in the game if u throw to open wr's u can still cut in front of ppl on post routes u can still throw deep and user infront of me with the offensive pass interference that isnt called and somehow catch the ball someone beat me yesterday like that...im in postion for the pick along with the another 1 of my defenders and jus force his way innto the position (offensive interference)...im jus sayin dawg maybe in 09 with the toned down spec catch and rocket catch it may not be that bad but it is certainly nothing to be upset about specially if u dont throw into coverage all the time.

but yes good players do adapt
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PostSubject: Re: Strafe Cathing   Strafe Cathing - Page 3 Empty2008-08-21, 22:09

You do know it's spelled "Catching", right? Cathing isn't even a word....

I should know I'm a writer ^.-
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PostSubject: Re: Strafe Cathing   Strafe Cathing - Page 3 Empty2008-08-26, 15:24

lol shadelon if u a writer i kno u hate readin my post lol
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