Strafe Cathing

bigbuddah wrote:

exactly not jus throwin the ball anywhere bur ready coverages not lookin for you #1 wr or jus 1 on 1 up the sideline

LOOKING FOR ONE ON ONE COVERAGE UP THE SIDELINE IS READING THE COVERAGE!

bigbuddah wrote:

wat im saying is that it is super over used and a user "regular" catch can be turned into some something that can be unstoppable...i dont want less user abilit in the game unless it posses a problem where u can throw any ball into to any coverage where it be 3 ppl or 1 and user to jump UP or infront spec catch is a disadvantage for the Defense...i believe they are testing ppls talent and skills...maybe they will put it back in next yrs game or not...the precision passing is better to get the ball away from the defender enough to not throw user jump catches all game as there only offense or wen they need it if they are losing or on a 3rd down .

Ok, will see if the user catch is something the game doesn't need this year... personally, I will miss it and I think its absence will hurt the gameplay this year... but for all the players that didn't "user catch" or strafe to get into better position to catch the football ... I'm sure they are rejoicing and won't mind at all because its a simple fact... if you can't do it on offense, you can't do it on defense either and in past madden if you couldn't or didn't have user skill control to "user catch" you were at a disadvantage.

It looks like were going to be forced to depend on animation catching this year which is throw a high bullet streak pass and the animation is triggerd.... thx's EA.

Fresh prince wrote:

supermn you have to hold LT on the 360 so he will turnaround he WILL NOT turn around on his own if that is not dtrafe catching then i am confused.?.?

I always user controlled my wr cut to the out side and then back in to trigger the rocket catch and it could be done by using the strafe as well and the spectacular catch is done by throwing a high bullet pass on a streak.... what I'm saying if you can't strafe in the game on offense it going to be hard to get the wr into position on certain situwation... say your QB throws to your TE running to the right over the middle and the pass is off to the left, its easier to strafe and get back into position then trying to cut back without this option... its going to be impossible and if the defense can strafe, it can easily be picked off cause they can get into position easier. Thats what i'm saying and the rocket catch and the spectacular catch could have been toned down without the removal of the strafe by lowering the players rating some. It looks like were going to have alot of animation high bullet catches this year like in 07, which is what they were trying to get away from with 08 and now its back agine... its amazing how everything old is new again with EA but lets just wait and see what the whole game plays like b4 we continue to rant about this... thx's for your all your opinions on this matter guys.

so in 09 how do you strafe catch....

norwoodr wrote:

so in 09 how do you strafe catch....

Strafe catching! in madden 09 is only allowed in rookie and pro settings... all pro and all madden this feature is disabled... thous its not allowed online this year. Maybe! if enough ppl complain to EA this could be enabled by patch.. later.

EA! has basically took one of the funnest parts of the game out this year. User catching! with strafing being remove in the higher setting this has took the deep ball and has pretty much removed it from the game, even in 1 on 1 situations. Especially! in online games because the defense can still strafe into position were the offense can't... the receiver just stand there... unless! you want to try and do a u-turn with the receiver and thats "very frustrating" cause once again the defense can strafe... thous gets in to position way b4 you and it results into a "INT" almost every time with a skilled appoint.

Remember! some PPL connected closely to EA said... this was the result of bad play calling... WTF. I guess... locked animated catching wasn't something everybody "complained" about last year and yet it seems thats all we got this year... thx's EA... "nice job" in giving us less "user control" and more "locked animation" this year in catching the ball.

umm u can still user catch u just cnt strafe

When I was watching a Madden Review it said that when you throw the deep ball the QB will place the ball were it needs to be. Like in real life so if you have a lot of separation then you should catch the deep ball.

xXBlackiceXx wrote:

umm u can still user catch u just cnt strafe

I didn't say you can't "user catch"... I said you can't "strafe" to get into better position to make the catch... but to me its more to "user catching" than just running under the ball and hoping 4 a catch and hoping a skilled "user controlled" defender doesn't strafe in front of you for a INT.... since the offensive "user controlled" receiver, can't strafe and defend the INT by battling for the catch. Almost! "every time" someone treys to throw deep on a "skilled opponent" its a INT. Why! EA thought this formula would work... I have no clue or idea. Basically! they have remove one of the funnest parts of the game this year.

What do you guys think... I'm I off base or do you feel the same way.

R3V 1T UP wrote:

When I was watching a Madden Review it said that when you throw the deep ball the QB will place the ball were it needs to be. Like in real life so if you have a lot of separation then you should catch the deep ball.

Yeah! this review was right on the money. When you throw deep its straight to a skilled "user controlled" defender "strafing" into position for a INT. The cpu defense is so much better this year... that even in 1 on 1 situation its not much separation to complete the pass deep and like I said if your playing a "skilled opponent" that can "User defend" its a INT.

it is gay they took that out, i was playin my friends 360 with the new game on it and it was almost impossible to user catch!!!!

xXBlackiceXx wrote:

SuprmnxXx wrote:

bigbuddah wrote:

haha not to sound like a whiner but IM GLAD THEY TOOK IT OUT OF OFFENSE but i mean like someone has alread proven where there is awill there is a way lol of course...its always someone to find it lol

Yeah! try this... why your trying your will to find away, I'll strafe with my defender and pick your pass.

Thats how it's going to be if they don't fix this with a patch.

UMM i dnt think it will work like that because u cnt just slide into an interception like b4. becuase when u user catch the computer also positions u to make a play on the ball on offense . i think this will be fine the way it is but we'll c.

Blackice! thats "exactly" how its going to be this year. You can! "user control" your receiver but because you can't "Strafe" to turn around to meet the ball and on defense, you can "strafe"... how are you suppose to turn around and catch or go up to defend from the eventual "INT" from the defender, tell me!" not "every pass" hits your receiver in stride deep or on "any other route" for that matter and not every route is ran prefect by the receiver on every play. EA! wanted to slow the game down to a grind and they have done "just that" this year.

Why! would I want or need the "CPU" to put my receiver into position... when! if I could still "strafe" on offense, I could "User control" the receiver myself and put him into position for the catch. Thats what I loved about the game... being able to "manually" put my receivers into position and having "user control" over those situation... now your receiver like a "mindless robot" that just stands their, while a "user controlled" defender "strafes" and gets the INT. Like I have been saying "Blackice" and like you just said yourself "hope you realize it" EA! has forced use to rely more on the cpu in these situation for catching this year by removing "strafe" from the game in the higher game play setting this year. No deep ball this year guys. Because! if your playing a good player that has perfected "User catching" which on the flip side is "user defending" on defense... you'll get picked 90% of the time this year. I mean maybe next year, they'll remove it from the defense to and the "cpu" can defend and catch all of our passes for us... cause why would we want to do that "user controlled" stuff anyway... right! or maybe... they can just get the CPU to play the game for us and we can just call the plays like a NFL "Madden" head coach or something.

exactly i totally agree super!!!!

BLA BLA BLA....POINT IS EA GOT IT RIGHT....strafe catchin was over used by ppl rocket catchin makin that pretty much impossible to stop so they took it out caus ppl was abusing it...the reason y it is there on defense is for ppl who like to throw deep passin u can defend those better....u can still jus bump the defender out of the circle out of the way of the ball and still catch a deep pass that was hung out there...someone jus plowed there wr into my defender and move them off and catch the ball so there is a way i guess try that since u ARE ACTIN BOOTY HURT OVA ABUSING A FEATURE.

txboy05 wrote:

BLA BLA BLA....POINT IS EA GOT IT RIGHT....strafe catchin was over used by ppl rocket catchin makin that pretty much impossible to stop so they took it out caus ppl was abusing it...the reason y it is there on defense is for ppl who like to throw deep passin u can defend those better....u can still jus bump the defender out of the circle out of the way of the ball and still catch a deep pass that was hung out there...someone jus plowed there wr into my defender and move them off and catch the ball so there is a way i guess try that since u ARE ACTIN BOOTY HURT OVA ABUSING A FEATURE.

Txboy05! do you even know what your talking about... "NOT"... let me "TRY" to educate you. The rocket catch your referring to is a "Animation glitch" catch... "used" last year by just dropping back 3 steps with the QB and throwing a high out or in bullet pass to a receiver that had a high "spectacular catch" rating. Yes! the reason its on defense is to get position to defend against the pass... "the flip side" and the part your failing to understand is.. you need it on offense to defend against the "user controlled" defender... what I mean by this... if you can't "strafe" with the defender to get into position to catch the pass intended for your receiver... your at a "HUGE" disadvantaged. Since we can't "strafe" this year on offense... it's so easy to "user defend" for a INT.

Txboy! lets play a "ranked" game and while your "trying" to bump me with your WR... I'll "strafe" in front of you ass for a "user pick" just to show you... why its needed on offense, but since you don't know the "deferents" between a "animation" catch or a "user controlled" catch using "strafe" on a deep pass... I would probably be wasting my time.

Txboy! from your post it tells me one thing about you.

(A) you obviously don't "user catch" that why you don't miss "strafe" on offense.
(B) You don't have the "user skill" to in the first place and "always" have let the CPU do it for you... thats why your glade it's gone... because you were always at a "disadvantage".

(C) "Read carefully"... If or when we play... YOU BOOTY WILL BE HURTING.

u lost yo rabbit ass mind....i got passing skills man i dont throw into coverage i throw to open wr thats y i dont need user "strafe" catch...my wr's are open so yeah the cpu catch my passes...u dont kno jack bout me dawg serioiusly here is my PSN...txboy05

u better put a hurtin on me talkin all dat head dawg fa real

You can still rocket catch... There are certain routes that you can do them on easily.

txboy05 wrote:

u lost yo rabbit ass mind....i got passing skills man i dont throw into coverage i throw to open wr thats y i dont need user "strafe" catch...my wr's are open so yeah the cpu catch my passes...u dont kno jack bout me dawg serioiusly here is my PSN...txboy05

u better put a hurtin on me talkin all dat head dawg fa real

If you play me DAWG! your going to need to "user catch" cause I'm going to lock your s*** down tight... and when you throw into 1 on 1 coverage... I'm going to "user defend" you using "strafe" for a INT, DAWG!
Your the one that needs to learn to give some respect... "REMEMBER" posting this... BLA BLA BLA.... strafe catching was over used by ppl rocket catching... ARE ACTIN BOOTY HURT OVA ABUSING A FEATURE. "Anyway" he is my game tag (Superman-x-X-x-) "please" when your online hit me for a game.

ps Txboy! don't forget to bring your BOOTY WHIPS cause its gonna hurt.

Super, do u use tha 'boys

TwEnTy20ViZioN wrote:

You can still rocket catch... There are certain routes that you can do them on easily.

Yeah! 20/20 you can still rocket catch in the game... EA! didn't remove it from the game... they just toned it down this year.

Txboy! doesn't know the deferents between a "animation catch" which is what the rocket catch is and a "user catch" using "strafe"... EA! took out "strafing" on offense because they wanted to make passing easier for players as a hole... "Meaning" they wanted anyone to be able to pick up and play this year, because alot of players were getting them selfs out of position trying to "user catch" using "strafe" and would get out of position for a "INT". "user catching" when mastered is a serious "user skill" and a "huge" advantage when playing madden 08.. if one player can and another player can't... I'll let you guess which is at a "disadvantage".

"Animation catch" is when a receive goes into a preloaded animation for a catch... like the "rocket catch" or the "spectacular catch" EA! didn't remove these catches from the game but realized it was a "glitch" and toned them down from madden 08... cause players were abusing them all the time with R. Moss, B. Edwards, R. Williams and C. Johnson just to name a few... I'm glade they toned that down from 08, because! even if you had a player 3rd and long they could easily do this for a 1st down... "very Frustrating". EA! removed strafing from the offense to take another "advantage" away from "skilled" players and to make easier for "NEWBIES" players "especially" meant for online play. The down side to this is that now its so easy... as a defender to "user defend" for a INT cause if you try to "User catch" with the WR you can't "strafe" into position to make the catch... but don't get me wrong this is not a problem... not until!... you play against someone that can "user defend"... then if you pass deep and sometimes even on medium routes its a INT... WHY!... because... if the defensive player can turn around to meet the ball and the offensive player can't and is standing their in a preloaded over the should animation catch... I'll let you guess, whose going to catch it.

I have played 9 online games and I'm AVG. 5 INTS a game that just ridiculous and I'm not the only doing this in madden 09 this year... again... EA! what was you thinking.

Cowboys101 wrote:

Super, do u use tha 'boys

Sup bro! yes... I have always used the DA-boys and always will.

You can get the same animation, just have to do it manually.

yogibear021 wrote:

You can get the same animation, just have to do it manually.

Yeah! thats what EA wants is animation catching this year.

Post a topic for everyone to read on how to do this manually.

yo jus go ahead and say u hate madden dude seriously....all u doin is complainin bout the game go ta the EA forums fa dat dude....how bout if ppl would throw a good pass den they wouldnt get picked off...ive played against ppl who have some user catch ability and i dont throw picks and i go up the field...stop whinnin bout 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 lil feature that u love man and deal wit it...im sure u still playin at a high level but these novels bout how EA this and EA that strafe is different from a rocket catch...the point is that they took out strafe caus of the POSSIBILITY of the rocket catch...im sure u didnt abuse it by the way u talkin bout user skills and s*** but i mean otha ppl did and 1 bad apple can ruin a bunch so jus leave it dawg caus this dont make no sense.

All I have been doing is explaining the "deferents" between why madden 09 needs strafing on both sides of the ball. What the deferences are between "user catching" using strafe and what is "animation catching" A.K.A rocket catching and spectacular catch. Some members didn't understand the deferents.

Yeah! I still play and love madden BRO! and yes I still play at a very high level... with or without strafe but if I want to post on "strafe catching" or a another madden subject... I'll do so! if you don't like it "don't read it" it's that simple. I'm helping members understand those deferences and posting on a topic on madden 09... on the site I help create for this... to talk about madden... good or bad, likes or dislikes.

Anyway!
here is a quick recap on me trying to help you Friend Txboy05 to understand.... after he posted... [quote] BLA BLA BLA....POINT IS EA GOT IT RIGHT....strafe catchin was over used by ppl rocket catchin makin that pretty much impossible to stop so they took it out caus ppl was abusing it...the reason y it is there on defense is for ppl who like to throw deep passin u can defend those better....u can still jus bump the defender out of the circle out of the way of the ball and still catch a deep pass that was hung out there...someone jus plowed there wr into my defender and move them off and catch the ball so there is a way i guess try that since u ARE ACTIN BOOTY HURT OVA ABUSING A FEATURE.

Txboy05! do you even know what your talking about... "NOT"... let me "TRY" to educate you. The rocket catch your referring to is a "Animation glitch" catch... "used" last year by just dropping back 3 steps with the QB and throwing a high out or in bullet pass to a receiver that had a high "spectacular catch" rating. Yes! the reason its on defense is to get position to defend against the pass... "the flip side" and the part your failing to understand is.. you need it on offense to defend against the "user controlled" defender... what I mean by this... if you can't "strafe" with the defender to get into position to catch the pass intended for your receiver... your at a "HUGE" disadvantaged. Since we can't "strafe" this year on offense... it's so easy to "user defend" for a INT.