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 4th and 4 on the 6 yard line

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PostSubject: 4th and 4 on the 6 yard line   4th and 4 on the 6 yard line Empty2009-06-02, 17:51

Your on defense. What play do you call when the game is on the line?

I would call 3-4 under cover 2 sink, and put the blitzing mlb in a yellow yone or man him up on the tight end. and i would put the defensive ends in contain.

what would you do.
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PostSubject: Re: 4th and 4 on the 6 yard line   4th and 4 on the 6 yard line Empty2009-06-02, 17:55

depends on the formation sometimes
but mostly

46 cover 2 hawk ..
pinch the line and just try to move everyone into the box in case of the run

but if kno its a run .. fire zone press
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PostSubject: Re: 4th and 4 on the 6 yard line   4th and 4 on the 6 yard line Empty2009-06-02, 18:08

4-6 or 4-3 Cover 2 bump and run. 4 yards, probably 80% chance of passing (watch for the screen). If he does run you have 50% chance of stopping it. Remember he is on the 6 yd line so all your players are a lot closer to the LOS. If he has a good TE and they have been using him, highlight the TE.
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PostSubject: Re: 4th and 4 on the 6 yard line   4th and 4 on the 6 yard line Empty2009-06-02, 18:21

goalline cover 3.. whatever the cover 3 play is called... put both des in flat zones and blitz the middle 3 lineman straight down. i would cover the right side of the screen flat by myself with the de i put in a flat zone.. i would probably pinch the line too so i would make them bounce outside if its a run.
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PostSubject: Re: 4th and 4 on the 6 yard line   4th and 4 on the 6 yard line Empty2009-06-02, 18:33

of course...what i do depends on my opponents tendancies in the red zone. but...if i know for sure that it is a pass....then i run:


Goaline: RZ Stop

Package: LB ENDS

-Spread the D-line
-Spread the LBs
-Place Blitzing DEs in Buzz Zones (Purple)
-Manually user the DT in the Hook Zone (Yellow)

Optional: place both defenders in a Spy (Orange) in Hook Zones (Yellow)
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PostSubject: Re: 4th and 4 on the 6 yard line   4th and 4 on the 6 yard line Empty2009-06-02, 19:01

Militant X 1 wrote:
of course...what i do depends on my opponents tendancies in the red zone. but...if i know for sure that it is a pass....then i run:


Goaline: RZ Stop

Package: LB ENDS

-Spread the D-line
-Spread the LBs
-Place Blitzing DEs in Buzz Zones (Purple)
-Manually user the DT in the Hook Zone (Yellow)

Optional: place both defenders in a Spy (Orange) in Hook Zones (Yellow)

sounds like u are droppin back everyone on this... 4th and 4 on the 6 wouldnt u be afraid the qb takes off and gets a first down?
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PostSubject: Re: 4th and 4 on the 6 yard line   4th and 4 on the 6 yard line Empty2009-06-02, 19:12

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Militant X 1 wrote:
of course...what i do depends on my opponents tendancies in the red zone. but...if i know for sure that it is a pass....then i run:


Goaline: RZ Stop

Package: LB ENDS

-Spread the D-line
-Spread the LBs
-Place Blitzing DEs in Buzz Zones (Purple)
-Manually user the DT in the Hook Zone (Yellow)

Optional: place both defenders in a Spy (Orange) in Hook Zones (Yellow)

sounds like u are droppin back everyone on this... 4th and 4 on the 6 wouldnt u be afraid the qb takes off and gets a first down?

NO! once again....running this set up would depend upon my opponents tendancies in the Red Zone...and esp.....if i knew they were passing...^^^^^ lol! plus...i am usering the DT in the middle in the Hook Zone to watch the QB. and remember...i gave an optional? well...you could just leave the Spy defenders as such if you were concerned about the QB (depending upon who it is).
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PostSubject: Re: 4th and 4 on the 6 yard line   4th and 4 on the 6 yard line Empty2009-06-02, 20:11

lol yea mili i was just thinking of what i would do against ur setup and i would take brady and dive for that first down marker! lol and u know im passin when the game is on the line, haha im abandoning the run game when its all or nothing.
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lol yea mili i was just thinking of what i would do against ur setup and i would take brady and dive for that first down marker! lol and u know im passin when the game is on the line, haha im abandoning the run game when its all or nothing.

lol Bo...you act like i run this play and set up like this all of the time? wrong! it is based upon what my opponent does....so don't get to happy with this....lol i lock folk up with it all of the time...the set up is very very deceptive! and i would smoke brady's slow ass trying to dive! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: 4th and 4 on the 6 yard line   4th and 4 on the 6 yard line Empty2009-06-02, 21:45

akadreday wrote:
depends on the formation sometimes
but mostly

46 cover 2 hawk ..
pinch the line and just try to move everyone into the box in case of the run

but if kno its a run .. fire zone press

yea i like cover 2 hawk
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PostSubject: Re: 4th and 4 on the 6 yard line   4th and 4 on the 6 yard line Empty2009-06-02, 22:53

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lol yea mili i was just thinking of what i would do against ur setup and i would take brady and dive for that first down marker! lol and u know im passin when the game is on the line, haha im abandoning the run game when its all or nothing.

lol Bo...you act like i run this play and set up like this all of the time? wrong! it is based upon what my opponent does....so don't get to happy with this....lol i lock folk up with it all of the time...the set up is very very deceptive! and i would smoke brady's slow ass trying to dive! lol!


lol not when im using brady ill juke ur D like he juked brian urlacher a couple years ago! lol jk bruh i was just sayin if i recognized this while playing u i would take bradys slow ass into the endzone.
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PostSubject: Re: 4th and 4 on the 6 yard line   4th and 4 on the 6 yard line Empty2009-06-02, 22:54

thats why i always use either qb contain or qb spy with someone, plus qb spy actually provides decent coverage against hb curl routes or wr drag routes
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PostSubject: Re: 4th and 4 on the 6 yard line   4th and 4 on the 6 yard line Empty2009-06-02, 23:08

is hes in singleback ill do a nano.

If hes in SG

Velcro 9 and user with FS
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PostSubject: Re: 4th and 4 on the 6 yard line   4th and 4 on the 6 yard line Empty2009-06-02, 23:14

Militant X 1 wrote:
of course...what i do depends on my opponents tendancies in the red zone. but...if i know for sure that it is a pass....then i run:


Goaline: RZ Stop

Package: LB ENDS

-Spread the D-line
-Spread the LBs
-Place Blitzing DEs in Buzz Zones (Purple)
-Manually user the DT in the Hook Zone (Yellow)

Optional: place both defenders in a Spy (Orange) in Hook Zones (Yellow)

imma have to give dis a try
seems like it can b fire
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pkismyname wrote:
is hes in singleback ill do a nano.

If hes in SG

Velcro 9 and user with FS

do u come out in the nano, and audible to 9 velcro or vice versa? cuz you cant tell before the snap what formation your opponent is in
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PostSubject: Re: 4th and 4 on the 6 yard line   4th and 4 on the 6 yard line Empty2009-06-02, 23:20

4th and 4, on the 6? Easy QB run so you gotta throw in the goalline cover 2.
Audible down from dollar or quarters and drop back 1 guy in a hook zone, then drop back 2 in buzz zones, so you should have a 2 or 3 man rush right now, so then drop another guy in a spy jus to make sure the QB doesn't get the 1st on his feet
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CJDAWGG14 wrote:
4th and 4, on the 6? Easy QB run so you gotta throw in the goalline cover 2.
Audible down from dollar or quarters and drop back 1 guy in a hook zone, then drop back 2 in buzz zones, so you should have a 2 or 3 man rush right now, so then drop another guy in a spy jus to make sure the QB doesn't get the 1st on his feet

i think this is a good play because your opponent will be too scared to run on 4th and 4 when they see a goalline d, even if it is from quarters. Only problem is that tight end streak. i would manually defend that.
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Mod, its 6 yards to the endzone. Don't you think a hook zone would murk that, especially with a DB or safety playin it?
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CJDAWGG14 wrote:
Mod, its 6 yards to the endzone. Don't you think a hook zone would murk that, especially with a DB or safety playin it?
but u have 10 yards in the endzone to hit that TE streak.. its essentially 16 yards to fit the ball in to the TE.
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hook zones don't work against that. i send the tight end on a streak whenever i am forced to pass within the 10, and it works 75-80% of the time.
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spotlight him then.
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i would just user a guy in the hook zone and guard the tight end manually for the first 5 yards, after that, you don't have to wirry about the streak
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u run 46 nortmal cover 2 hawk. that play is almost unbeatable on the goaline
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id do some crazy shyt since i kno their not running, id run a quarter cover 3 run commit to add a little pressure
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no matter what I come out in, if i see a quarters defense, I am audibling to a run play and getting 4 yards easy. I know what your saying though, if you know your opponent isnt going to run, why not run a quarters, but i just think that a lot of people will audible to a run if they see quarters
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