is this cheesing?

i play my friend almost everyday and everytime i play him he runs about 5 plays a game. He runs a wr screen, slip screen, the seahawks running formation where the back lines up to the left of the fullback, and the hail mary. Is this cheesing because he says its skill.


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good post... because me and my friend are the same way. He runs the screen way to much and when i do get my guys to stop it in the backfield he brokes 5 tackles and takes it to the house... Is breaking tackles skill?

omg i just played a level 20 kid thinking ill get a good football game, im not shitting you everytime i play these high level players, they have a PB of 2,3 plays tops, he used chargers i was steelers, first play pitch, 2nd play pitch , 3rd play pitch, did it until he scored, so i said ok wanna play cheese ball to my self, my turn, HB SNAP 3 times scored, i kick off , first down pitch, 2nd down pitch, now im trying to message him, im typing away while game is playing he scores, i got ball, hb snap drove all the way down scored, so i message him, and said you wanna play real football or cheese ball, cuz we can do 1 play all game witch is borning and gay to me, he goes wht u mean, so he tried to mix it up and he couldnt even complete a pass, i int his ass and scored, so he gets ball again and just starts to do the pitch, i stop it but my settings was on WIDE CAMERA SO IT WAS HARD to stop it every play, cuz i wasnt used to that settings, so he kept doing that every play, so i just quit lol, no fun to me, its like playing GTA ON SAME MISSION OVER N OVER lmaooo

yes, if u only use 5 plays its a cheese....especially with screens....screens arent supposed to be ran every series..its used to counter over load blitzes alot

How bout being on the 3 yd line on 3rd and goal and using the WR screen to get a td cause everything else you have tried has been stopped short.

Man why is anything another player can't stop cheese?? Stop the play!! If someone constantly runs that same play stop it!! There is a way to stop every play. Find a way and stop making excuses. I do believe someone who runs a toss every play for the whole game is ridiculous, but he's not gonna get five on me every play. He may make it to the inzone on one possession but after that no more. I played a guy last night who couldn't stop my run and I broke his takles and dude accused me of letting the computer run for me!!???? Really didn't know that was possible!!! And now all of a sudden I'm a cheese and I run well more than five plays. A true cheeser is the kickoff blocking dude!! A true cheeser abuses glitches in the game like the holding call on FG WITH no time left and no rekick. A cheeser is not someone who exploits a dumbass trying to run the same nano he just found that worked on some other asswhole but doesn't work on him. I think people really believe that something they can't stop is cheese. You just don't know how to stop it.

It depends if it's a legit play or not. In these games the WR screen is overly effective.. to the point you can take any one to the house no problem. There are kids who base their whole O off of it, it's just lame as hell. If it's a play that depends on CPU faults more than skills, it's cheese to me. Throwing screens vs a base D gets like 5-10 yds tops in real ball, when you blitz is when it kills you cause the DB is on an island.

I run pitches to fast RB's probably 5-10 times a game, but it's all based on a read I make. The opponent's D is dictating where I'm running the play to. If they line up stacked to the side, I'll audible to a gut run or PA. If they play the PA, I'll pitch. If they put all the defenders in the flats on both sides for PA and pitch, I run gut. When they come into a run D, I'll call a 3 or 4 wide to get advantage. To me that's just smart football and taking what the D gives you.

spotlight WR and control a DE and go try to cover the WR and knock the ball away or intercept it

That's exactly my point... I learned that from Madden 2008. The fact I had to find that out is what makes it awful. The fact I have to keep that in my back pocket and let them take advantage of my AI coverage while I play the DE is lame. I noticed if you CB blitz, sometimes the timing of the blitz will get you a hit on the receiver or an easy tackle too.

running the same plays isnt cheesing learn to stop them..

SiCkOnDaStiCk wrote:

running the same plays isnt cheesing learn to stop them..

It sounds pretty fucking cheesy to me.

this is pathetic. people cant stop one play? the pitch is not cheese. in all sincerity i would love to play someone that runs 5 or less plays no matter how effective they are. if u know it's coming u can stop it. quit bitchin

OP: the people giving u advice on how to stop ur buddy's plays are legit. the people bitching that people cheese because they can't stop a play are just terrible players.

Thank you and please if I'm beating your ass and you can't stop my play because you keep running some dumb f@g D, don't message me period. Don't call me a cheeser because I can run for 150 yrds on you. Stop me!! Other people can!! Sometimes!! Lol. Why can't you ? Because you're a bum who hasn't studied the game enough yet. Go lab dude or go cry somewhere else cuz I don't wanna hear it. And like I said only glitches are cheese like blocking kickoff that s*** is illegal anyway. You have never and never will see that in the NFL. I know some people who think laterals are cheese !! Really because you didn't expect
it it's cheese wow!! Why did some
people buy this game. If you want a boring ass game play franchise and just play a season against the computer an let the footballers play. Damn.

only cheese plays i see if hb direct snap, qb draw glitch
oh and wr motion fade on verticals

Cheese is when you exploit the AI for big plays.

Masta23 wrote:

Cheese is when you exploit the AI for big plays.

when ppl send a RB on a slant out and motion him out of the backfield on PA X Clown is cheese?? slant outs exploit the AI.. see, idk what kind of offense u run but id guarantee 3/4 of the ppl on this site run slant outs at sum point in a game and i HIGHLY DOUBT that 3/4 of the ppl on this r cheesers..

its not chessing just learn how to stop it

Deal with it.

Learn to beat it.

Or quit it.

I'd love to face someone who ran screens and tosses on me whole game.
Easy win.

Most of the time people say its cheese because they can't stop it unless it's like HBDS since the D doesn't react at all unless u stack and contain.
Easy win.

EastCoast_Dog wrote:

hello MCFLY'S i
said i stop it , said couldnt stop it every play cuz of my settings was on
wide, and you guys getta be fcking high to say it isnt cheese to run same play
every play, and for someone to run the same fcking play every single play i dnt give a
fck who u are u cant stop it every play,he didnt have another play, you never see that in the NFL ever!!! and for the foodstampers who say it
isnt cheese then you must run same play every play too lmao, sure run same
play 20 times if sum 1 can stop it, but not 20 times in a row, mix it up,i didnt have a problem stopping it, if you read my
post clearly u can see i was up by a td, and i quit cuz i said i was looking for a good game

If I keep running HB Zone because your ass is running lets say nickel velcro, is that cheese because i know i can run the same play because you know nothing about defense?? This is not cheese...this is defensive exploitation which does happen in the NFL. And for those of you who keep comparing "Madden" to the "NFL"...do you go to two a days in the off season? no Do you practice 9-5 every day of the week to prepare for sunday?? No...THIS IS A FCKING GAME!! get over it and just play. definition of CHEESE = Exploitation of programming glitches!!!

regardless of how its done, EVERY play can be stopped one way or another. the problem is that how you stop it takes you away from your game most of the time

a person who can user a LB or SS/FS is by far, the MOST effictive way to stop anything

i'm guilty of using the hb slip screen multiple times a game but, really, stop blitzing every play! do you really expect me to just sit back and take sacks?? people calling screens cheese just need to start playing real defense

crazyblack001 wrote:

regardless of how its done, EVERY play can be stopped one way or another. the problem is that how you stop it takes you away from your game most of the time

a person who can user a LB or SS/FS is by far, the MOST effictive way to stop anything

that is the truest comment i have read on this blog...well said.

finsfan85 wrote:

i'm guilty of using the hb slip screen multiple times a game but, really, stop blitzing every play! do you really expect me to just sit back and take sacks?? people calling screens cheese just need to start playing real defense

exactly...there are some guys who really dont know football who play madden...And I dont just mean knowing what beats what I mean responsibilities and assignments. you have to know these things to stop plays if you dont....you are just pushing button lol

I actually was backed into a wall earlier. Some dude had some hellacious nano, I couldn't run nor pass from under center. Then it hit me. He nano's me every down why not give it to my back and throw screens? I played his game and beat him at it. I don't like to do that but if that's what it takes to show that dude up I will...he tried a Friendly quit to when he was losing 31-17. I was the bengals he was the raiders. Technically not cheesing, I made the dude switch his whole gameplan and defend the run and pass and made him play offense. He couldn't do anything. Wildcat didn't work. So if you come to think of it, like someone said earlier, A D is built around nano's will lose, or an O that's built around screens will lose. At the same time though, you got to know how to beat them.