Biggest bust to be.

Look Al Davis was good at his job. He was cool. He was the guy that made the raiders the cool team.
Now he is oblivious to what you need for success and the choosing of DHB over crabtree proved it.

BIG HUNGRY 702 wrote:

i dont think you can al davis a d.a.. he has 3 superbowls and 5 afc championships and 1 afl championship. thats more than alot of owners can say. i dont put the blame all on him, i mean he doesnt always have control of his picks if any1 should be blamed it should be the lame ass coaches and the gm's fault.

Al Davis is the GM and basically the head coach... he just brings in coaches and makes them do the style of Offense and D he wants which is why they always have problems.... And he drafts all the players he wants regardless of who the coach wants... Lane Kiffin was turning the raiders around...and he fired dude... thats the reason he has to pay players WAY more than any other team would... and he got mad at kiffin for the randy moss trade but cmon it wasnt like moss was even playing for them at all.

MATHEW STAFFORD = BUST
the lions suck at drafting

c'mon mister...

give matt a shot...i honestly see a better player than harrington a few years back..

being a lifetime fan...

i do think culpepper should play til week 4 unless we're 4-,3-1, stafford should come in, but if dante got us winning, then dont mess it up, he'll be ight taking reps in practice

we have a TOP 5 WR is CJ..

kevin smith is going to go crazy this year, cause we WILL run the ball under schwartz

biggest bust...ill say...........

josh freeman....dude just a collegiate player, his size is what got him drafted (jamarcus russell)...

he wasnt even THAT nice in college...

al made the right move when he fired lame kiffin i was mad at first but seeing lame make an ass of him self in the scc made me realize that maybe al was right 2 fire him. it was rumored that lame kiffin wanted out of oaklnd cuz he was offered a job as a college head coach so he wanted 2 get fired. the players wernt 2 fond of him either and really who the **** goes 4 a 76 yrd fg. really. only thing good about lame was that he had an eye for talent

another rumor about lane was that al davis didnt like him no matter what. you cant deny that he had the raiders goin forward instead of backwards. its just that he didnt do what al davis wanted and thats ultimately what got him fired. and it wasnt that the players didnt like him its that they all know al ran things so whenever lane would use his authority or there was a problem they wouldnt go to lane they would go to al.

TheDon270 wrote:

eli wrote: last wr taken #1 by oaklnand was the great tim brown


Oh yes that is so true. I watched that draft too....When Tim got drafted, the trash talking started. The critics were so wrong about Tim. 9 Pro Bowls. Returned kicks and punts for TD's and he handled his business out there on the field. My personal opinion, Tim could have been the greatest if he had the QB's Jerry Rice had!

tim brown doesnt even compare to dhb

Roddy 84 White wrote:

tim brown doesnt even compare to dhb



Check this out man. I ain't trying to knock you, but you weren't old enough to watch Tim Brown get drafted by the Raiders, and see the immediate criticism the Raiders received. Tim Brown was supposed to be a BUST because he played for a so called mediocre Notre Dame program at the time. And they tried to elaborate that Tim Brown wouldn't have no success in the NFL because the NFL is very solid, compared to the competition Tim Brown faced.

Roddy 84 White wrote:

TheDon270 wrote:

eli wrote: last wr taken #1 by oaklnand was the great tim brown


Oh yes that is so true. I watched that draft too....When Tim got drafted, the trash talking started. The critics were so wrong about Tim. 9 Pro Bowls. Returned kicks and punts for TD's and he handled his business out there on the field. My personal opinion, Tim could have been the greatest if he had the QB's Jerry Rice had!

tim brown doesnt even compare to dhb

bruh you are honestly trippin.tim brown is one of the greatest of all time

devo40 wrote: bruh you are honestly trippin.tim brown is one of the greatest of all time

You got that right Devo. Wasn't sure if Roddy was trying to knock both Tim Brown and DHB, but I had to state the facts about when both of them were drafted....Which was the Raiders being criticized hard for them picks. Nobody can't hate Tim Brown anymore......He proved the haters wrong...Hopefully, DHB can turn the tables on the haters too.....

tim brown and dhb are opposites though. brown was more of a possesion guy and a smart player. the kinda guy you would like to build a franchise around. he was like reggie wayne. heyward bey is a speed beast who will make big plays but i dont think he will be the go to guy like brown was. he will make big plays but what the raiders really need is a big target that can go over the middle and catch everything. crabtree woulda been a great example of that but al davis drafts whoever the **** he wants to draft he drafts pretty much for madden not for real life.

Al Davis will never learn...My niners got Crabtree though so it's alllll good!
DHB..REALLY? that's a joke. Davis always chooses speed over talent and it has been proved over and over again.

B. Dazzle wrote: tim brown and dhb are opposites though. brown was more of a possesion guy and a smart player. the kinda guy you would like to build a franchise around. he was like reggie wayne. heyward bey is a speed beast who will make big plays but i dont think he will be the go to guy like brown was.


YES they are different....but Tim Brown was NEVER a posession guy..He was a speedy receiver who could return punts, and do kick returns too, all in all, he was the go to guy, but his specialty was beating you deep....On top of that, he wasn't a big guy. But I do agree that DHB is a speed beast that can make big plays...I'm not sure if he can be the go to guy like Tim was....

TheDon270 wrote:

B. Dazzle wrote: tim brown and dhb are opposites though. brown was more of a possesion guy and a smart player. the kinda guy you would like to build a franchise around. he was like reggie wayne. heyward bey is a speed beast who will make big plays but i dont think he will be the go to guy like brown was.


YES they are different....but Tim Brown was NEVER a posession guy..He was a speedy receiver who could return punts, and do kick returns too, all in all, he was the go to guy, but his specialty was beating you deep....On top of that, he wasn't a big guy. But I do agree that DHB is a speed beast that can make big plays...I'm not sure if he can be the go to guy like Tim was....

yeah good point there tim brown was the guy who could do it all for the raiders and thats the kinda guy you need to draft with the no.7 pick. not some guy whose got the speed to beat everybody deep. you dont need that every play you need a guy who aint scared to go across the middle to pick up that first down and DHB aint that. not sayin he wont be good it just wasnt the right move

i dont think dhb will be a bust they picked him cuz of speed but also he played in a offence that is really close to what the raiders use .so it is easy for him to pick it up i think he'll b fine.i think sanchez will be a bust he only started 16 gms. plus he played on a really good team .how many times have we seen a guy like this go to a team with less weapons and do very poor . culpepper.and i think it will be like that for sanchez
jets just dont have the reciving corps . they just have cotchery and some sub par talent.

crackajack wrote:

i dont think dhb will be a bust they picked him cuz of speed but also he played in a offence that is really close to what the raiders use .so it is easy for him to pick it up i think he'll b fine.i think sanchez will be a bust he only started 16 gms. plus he played on a really good team .how many times have we seen a guy like this go to a team with less weapons and do very poor . culpepper.and i think it will be like that for sanchez
jets just dont have the reciving corps . they just have cotchery and some sub par talent.

its real hard to say sanchez has little weapons he's got a nice running game and washington is a nice option out the backfield and they got keller who should be a nice tight end. that defense is also better than last year so its hard to say sanchez doesnt have any talent around him. if he's a bust it'll be a lack of talent

dhb fit our style of offense crabtree didnt end of that story. u guys can talk all u want about al but he still knows what he is doing despite what the media has corrupted ur minds w/ all the bs they talk.

eliisnotcool wrote:

dhb fit our style of offense crabtree didnt end of that story. u guys can talk all u want about al but he still knows what he is doing despite what the media has corrupted ur minds w/ all the bs they talk.

trust me its not the media who corrupts our minds about al davis. your the first raider fan i heard who still supports al davis

the media doesnt corrupt anything look at the last few years of first round picks... they had wat nnamdi? ...Mcfadden... woodson before that ? the rest are basically bust.... i mean they players themselves arent bust because they leave the raiders and go on to have some good careers some of them... say wat u want about heyward bey to make u feel better at night about the situation but before he ran that 4.3 he wasnt going to get drafted by them

al davis drafts like he is drafting a madden team.... maybe his children or something tells him who to draft

eliisnotcool wrote:

dhb fit our style of offense crabtree didnt end of that story. u guys can talk all u want about al but he still knows what he is doing despite what the media has corrupted ur minds w/ all the bs they talk.

i head stuff say directly thats one main reasons they picked dhb is they run almost to the t the same offence. .i think they should of took crabtree at the least took maclin but they didnt the had to of seen something they liked in him.well see if al davis is c nial or not depnding on what kind of a yr dhb crabtree and maclin have. i just dont see him as anykind of a bust. plus every1 doubting him is going to make him (DHB) play all that much harder to prove they didnt make a mistake.( plus ya Crabtree at texas tech they ran a way different offence)i didnt say crabtree didnt fit in there style of offence. i said it was different

DHB wont be a bust but he's more of a project player which is somethin the raiders didnt need. they needed a player like maclin who can step in from week 1 and make an impact. i dont even care that they dont got crabtree i wanted them to get maclin

eliisnotcool wrote:

dhb fit our style of offense crabtree didnt end of that story. u guys can talk all u want about al but he still knows what he is doing despite what the media has corrupted ur minds w/ all the bs they talk.

Did you watch the press conference where Al Davis talked about his reasoning for firing Lane Kiffin?! If you did AND you STILL believe it's just the media corrupting our minds, then I just don't know what to say...

devo408 wrote:

DHB wont be a bust but he's more of a project player which is somethin the raiders didnt need. they needed a player like maclin who can step in from week 1 and make an impact. i dont even care that they dont got crabtree i wanted them to get maclin

Maclin isnt even stepping in week 1 and he was having a hard time at first he is slot for a while maybe he can break out in the season but as of right now he is slot

DaBawseSwag wrote:

devo408 wrote:

DHB wont be a bust but he's more of a project player which is somethin the raiders didnt need. they needed a player like maclin who can step in from week 1 and make an impact. i dont even care that they dont got crabtree i wanted them to get maclin

Maclin isnt even stepping in week 1 and he was having a hard time at first he is slot for a while maybe he can break out in the season but as of right now he is slot

but he's got a shot to make an impact because he's the talent to start even if its in the slot but with dhb he's more of a raw talent so he might spend the beginning of the season on the bench. which is not what you want when you draft a receiver #7 overall