Defender Reaction Rating/What To Expect Audible

I think its utterly rediculous how hard it is to beat a cover zone, or any zone for that matter. A WR who is initially open will get the ball swated away from them by a defender who was guarding someone else, or just jumps 10 feet in the air to swat it down. And this is all because of how fast the d reacts to the ball. Literally, as soon as the QB releases the ball, everyone on d shoots towrds the ball spot, even the CBs that are following a WR deep down field with their backs turned. I never threw more picks on madden in my life. On ps2, if a man was open, he was open. there would be no defender hopping off his guy to deflect the intended WRs ball. I hope they will fix this.

Also, another thing that bugs me are people who do the same money plays time and time again throughout the game, and the D is just too dumb to recognize. If there was some way to audible your guys on what to expect from the offense, it would help the game play be more realistic a whooooole lot. I mean think about it. A menu that comes up on the screen, and it'll have options such as: expect screen to left/right, expect run up middle/left/right, expect toss play to left/right, expect trick play, etc. All those things for the whole defense. And as for like individual assignments on your man to man coverage, you'll have: expect an out route, in route, curl, streak, stop and go, etc. And instead of only being able to set this when the d and offense line up why not have it in the play calling menu? This would be great because it'll really force your opponent to have to out scheme you, and not just literally do the same 3-5 plays over and over again, because the AI is stupid. O yeah, 1 more thing. I wish they would add back shading WRs on next gen like thay have on ps2.

its just strategy. the D reacts to the ball fast because its zone instead of man, and DON'T have to cover only 1 WR. ppl use plays over and over because it works. the only cheesy play is the direct snap. all of that expect this, expect that would take too long. no1 is gunna give you time to set that up in the playcalling menu, because you only get 10 seconds after the offense has called their play to set yours up.you say the D is too dumb to recognize, but its really the user who's too dumb to recognize. I run the toss all game, you recognize it, but then I use playaction, you bite and i get you deep, and then your scared to come out of a blitzing play again, and stay in a cover 3 with only a few adjustments.

i would expect that kind of an answer from a bum like you. you say this cuz UR the exact type of person im talkin about. Yea, i recognize ur run, and even commit my guys there to stop it, but guess what, IT STILL DOESNNT WORK. if u call that realistic simulation football, then u dont know what football is. I dont even fall for that pa all the time, and ur guys still get open off a crossing pattern. Now if i could say to the AI "hey hes doing this" guanrantee u wwould get crushed by me. And if ea would decide to give extra time to the d, say 15 secs or more, u would be able to do all that. its not even alot if u already know what the person is gonna do.

u think its ur game thats tight, but its not. u throw it to ur rb out of the backfield in i-form and on short yardage plays, but i cant stop it cuz the AI is too stupid. u do that deep cross play and i know its coming, but what happens? the S always comes up, and its a td. again, not my fault, the AI. u do the toss play, and i commit to it ALLLLLLL the time, but guess what, i hardly ever stop it. So like i said, this WOULD be great, and its not the user fault that he cant stop certain stuff.

one more thing, i know men react faster in zone, but for guys to react when they are not even facing the QB when the ball is thrown? cmon. thats why u run cover 3 all day with ONLY a few adjustments. cuz of that fluke reaction on d

Rarly happens to me.. u just have to throw the ball how u need to. like LT will trigger spec catch ect. lob kinda. fit it between two defenders ect. i really dont have much problems enless i throw a deep ball and my guy has a 10 yard gain on the corner...and superman swats it...but rarly.. zone is easy to beat imo.

ill just stop typing crap about the game and just play it. thanks for the advice. but even still, i think we can agree that it seems as though players react to fast on d. btw, i wasn't complainin, it was just an idea of what ea could do

uhh zone defenders dont react fast at all... they dont react most of the time.......they allow catches in their faces and etc and they are stuck in those zones they react fast if the person is in the zone and on running plays if you dont run commit all the defensive backs stand still but in man to man they go after the run and zone gets beaten by all those deep post plays that people pick that completely makes a WR wide open not to mention the big holes in the play if u constantly pick the same play...........u are screwed the ones who react faster in zone are madden are usually the ones who have good zone coverage ratings.... take the chargers for example...they played zone last year so they have a better zone team than man to man... jammer can play man but the rest cant and in real nfl cromartie isnt good at all in man he isnt doing anything anymore man to man only works really well with really really good pass rush same can be said with zone tho

DAMMIT REAL, lol

well its true..i was a former man to man player before this madden and i do the zone thing now to adapt but i have to say zone isnt all fine and dandy its alot of probs with madden AI period but zone saves u against certain passes

IProb wrote:

i would expect that kind of an answer from a bum like you. you say this cuz UR the exact type of person im talkin about. Yea, i recognize ur run, and even commit my guys there to stop it, but guess what, IT STILL DOESNNT WORK. if u call that realistic simulation football, then u dont know what football is. I dont even fall for that pa all the time, and ur guys still get open off a crossing pattern. Now if i could say to the AI "hey hes doing this" guanrantee u wwould get crushed by me. And if ea would decide to give extra time to the d, say 15 secs or more, u would be able to do all that. its not even alot if u already know what the person is gonna do.

u think its ur game thats tight, but its not. u throw it to ur rb out of the backfield in i-form and on short yardage plays, but i cant stop it cuz the AI is too stupid. u do that deep cross play and i know its coming, but what happens? the S always comes up, and its a td. again, not my fault, the AI. u do the toss play, and i commit to it ALLLLLLL the time, but guess what, i hardly ever stop it. So like i said, this WOULD be great, and its not the user fault that he cant stop certain stuff.

you say that my game ISN'T tight, but I have about 5 out of 7 ppl on here that say my scheme is on point. I have about 4 out of those 7 ppl who say my user skills are pretty good. I have yet to see you RC, actually strafe pick or anything like that. you've beat me, what 3 times? I've beat you 6 times. can understand having someone come on the site you love and show you up, but it happens. that's what Tru1Ace3 dd to me at mgaming, but I got over it and got better from it too. When you play me, you should get better EVERYTIME, but you don't. it seems like ha;f the time we play, you play like you let your little cousin get on the sticks, and the other half you actually play like its the superbowl. I know ur good, and IDK if u THINK im good, but I know that u know I'm good, cuz there's no doubting that. I have a nice little scheme, and maybe if you used a scheme instead of cluttered plays, you'd actually beat me by making me concede like I've made you multiple times.

You obv dont know how to beat the zone.
Maybe you should just ask that and be nicer about it

The zone is easy to beat unless you don't know how than it can seem like they knock everything down.

how do i delete this thread? lol im over it