| Understanding Speed Rating | |
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sloppyjoe1762 Rookie MS Member
Number of posts : 126 Registration date : 2009-09-22
| Subject: Understanding Speed Rating 2009-10-22, 16:51 | |
| What is this actually based on. I can't figure it out. I heard it was based on combine figures and close to real life football, but I just don't get. My example is below is based on M. Bradley of the Chiefs. I am by no means saying Bradley is all that great or receiver, but isn't he fast?
A. Peterson of the Vikings ran a 4.38 and is a 97 P. Harvin of the Vikings ran a 4.41 and is a 97 M. Bradley of the Chiefs ran a 4.37 and 4.42 and is a 86
Can anyone in this scenario explain to me how Harvin is a 97 and Bradley is a 86? Is this just a case of the people who rate madden players having no idea and just put down any rating? Madden Czar Donny? Really, I think not.
Here is the link showing Bradley's time http://bleacherreport.com/articles/219573-chiefs-t...l-scouts-notes-on-kc-recievers sloppyjoe1762 winnin $$$ @ gamersaloon.com | |
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OMG iTz POPPA New MS Member
Number of posts : 81 Registration date : 2009-10-14
| Subject: Re: Understanding Speed Rating 2009-10-23, 21:20 | |
| idk the guy who does the ratings doesnt go only by 40 times he takes into consideration what that player has done so far this year too.
but it does sound messed up cuz i dont see heyward-bey doing anything and he has like 96 speed so yeah its kinda gay (no offense to homosexuals) | |
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super_mario90 Legend MS Member
Number of posts : 2188 Registration date : 2009-08-19
| Subject: Re: Understanding Speed Rating 2009-10-23, 23:07 | |
| im a little confused about andre johnsons speed it's a 94 and on madden 09 he was 97 even though i get big plays from him down the feild i just think his speed should be were it was before a 97 same thing with calvin johnson.
how are wr's like lee evans gonna have 97 speed and he's ok but nothing compared to andre johnson (im a fan of lee evans by the way) but other wr's like percy harvin,johnny knox,maclin how are they gonna be faster than andre johnson (even though he's better but still) that ain't right dre has that same kind of speed and so doe's calvin
maybe calvin and dre are just to good to be that fast it is kind of unfaire to the opponent trying to cover them i think that might have something to do with their speed being kinda slow
other players that speed should be higher andre davis,steve slaton's acceleration (he's still is kinda fast but not like he was in madden 09) | |
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Devo Madden School Veteran
Number of posts : 1120 Registration date : 2009-02-28
| Subject: Re: Understanding Speed Rating 2009-10-24, 02:02 | |
| - OMG iTz POPPA wrote:
- idk the guy who does the ratings doesnt go only by 40 times he takes into consideration what that player has done so far this year too.
but it does sound messed up cuz i dont see heyward-bey doing anything and he has like 96 speed so yeah its kinda gay (no offense to homosexuals) their performance had nothing to do with speed ratings you can suck and still be fast so dhb's speed should be where its at he had the top 40 time in the draft last year. but you gotta remember they re-did the whole speed system this year so alot of fast guys speed went down as a result. but as the season is going on alot of those guys get there high speed ratings back like chris johnson of the raiders who was a 97 last year started the season at 91 then moved back up to 97 | |
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janfuso New MS Member
Number of posts : 75 Registration date : 2009-09-09
| Subject: Re: Understanding Speed Rating 2009-10-24, 03:00 | |
| - super_mario90 wrote:
- im a little confused about andre johnsons speed it's a 94 and on madden 09 he was 97 even though i get big plays from him down the feild i just think his speed should be were it was before a 97 same thing with calvin johnson.
how are wr's like lee evans gonna have 97 speed and he's ok but nothing compared to andre johnson (im a fan of lee evans by the way) but other wr's like percy harvin,johnny knox,maclin how are they gonna be faster than andre johnson (even though he's better but still) that ain't right dre has that same kind of speed and so doe's calvin
maybe calvin and dre are just to good to be that fast it is kind of unfaire to the opponent trying to cover them i think that might have something to do with their speed being kinda slow
other players that speed should be higher andre davis,steve slaton's acceleration (he's still is kinda fast but not like he was in madden 09) I feel like you always are talking about the texans. I know you are a big fan and all but I just dont get why you think they are so good. Andre is good and probably one of the best but he isnt the fastest and his speed isnt what makes him great. I bet his awareness, hands, jumping, and those other things are all the way up. Speed at 94 is good. Im not trying to call you out either. I also dont see how mark bradley could be close to Ap or harvin. both adrian peterson and percy harvin run away from defenders all game long while mark bradley rarely if ever does. | |
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super_mario90 Legend MS Member
Number of posts : 2188 Registration date : 2009-08-19
| Subject: Re: Understanding Speed Rating 2009-10-24, 03:18 | |
| wtf i never said nothing about mark bradley lol
yeah i know 94 speed is good i never said it wasn't i was just saying why ain't his speed a 97 like it was on madden 09 i was just confused about why his speed droped a little same for calvin johnson
and what does percy harvin and AP have to do with anything? | |
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golddawg125 New MS Member
Number of posts : 8 Registration date : 2009-10-13
| Subject: Re: Understanding Speed Rating 2009-10-24, 05:02 | |
| I think he was talkin about the original post wit Bradley, harvin and AP lol | |
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A Packering Ape New MS Member
Number of posts : 64 Registration date : 2009-07-31
| Subject: Re: Understanding Speed Rating 2009-10-24, 05:42 | |
| - janfuso wrote:
- super_mario90 wrote:
- im a little confused about andre johnsons speed it's a 94 and on madden 09 he was 97 even though i get big plays from him down the feild i just think his speed should be were it was before a 97 same thing with calvin johnson.
how are wr's like lee evans gonna have 97 speed and he's ok but nothing compared to andre johnson (im a fan of lee evans by the way) but other wr's like percy harvin,johnny knox,maclin how are they gonna be faster than andre johnson (even though he's better but still) that ain't right dre has that same kind of speed and so doe's calvin
maybe calvin and dre are just to good to be that fast it is kind of unfaire to the opponent trying to cover them i think that might have something to do with their speed being kinda slow
other players that speed should be higher andre davis,steve slaton's acceleration (he's still is kinda fast but not like he was in madden 09)
I feel like you always are talking about the texans. I know you are a big fan and all but I just dont get why you think they are so good. Andre is good and probably one of the best but he isnt the fastest and his speed isnt what makes him great. I bet his awareness, hands, jumping, and those other things are all the way up. Speed at 94 is good. Im not trying to call you out either. I also dont see how mark bradley could be close to Ap or harvin. both adrian peterson and percy harvin run away from defenders all game long while mark bradley rarely if ever does. Your right since when does 1 Kr for Td counts as running away from defenders.The madden speed system sucks.I always bring up the fact that pat willis-90 manny lawson-89 aaron curry-86 adalius thomas 86 CHARLES WOODSON -87(just got a 87).Why did greg Jennings drop to a 93.Miles austin gets a 94 because of one game in which he wasnt running that fast.I dont know why Calvin dropped because he ran around the same 40 time as bush and peterson.I guess its based on what espn says. | |
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OMG iTz POPPA New MS Member
Number of posts : 81 Registration date : 2009-10-14
| Subject: Re: Understanding Speed Rating 2009-10-24, 09:31 | |
| and by performance i didnt mean stats, im saying if they're blowing by people in real life they gunna get a speed boost in the game i.e johny knox from the bears. if they were overrated at the beginning of the year and areing showing as much burst as they should they are gonna get a speed drop i.e. tomlinson and felix jones.
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Devo Madden School Veteran
Number of posts : 1120 Registration date : 2009-02-28
| Subject: Re: Understanding Speed Rating 2009-10-24, 12:58 | |
| - OMG iTz POPPA wrote:
- Devo wrote:
- OMG iTz POPPA wrote:
- idk the guy who does the ratings doesnt go only by 40 times he takes into consideration what that player has done so far this year too.
but it does sound messed up cuz i dont see heyward-bey doing anything and he has like 96 speed so yeah its kinda gay (no offense to homosexuals) their performance had nothing to do with speed ratings you can suck and still be fast so dhb's speed should be where its at he had the top 40 time in the draft last year.
but you gotta remember they re-did the whole speed system this year so alot of fast guys speed went down as a result. but as the season is going on alot of those guys get there high speed ratings back like chris johnson of the raiders who was a 97 last year started the season at 91 then moved back up to 97 They split the speeds up into different sections. Acceleration and Agility actually mean something this year. Wes Welker is 86 speed but has 95 agility steve smith 97 and 97 agility Wes welker doesnt have the same blow away speed like steve smith but he can make the quick cuts just as good. comprende? you say comprende like you've explained this to me before. you were the one with the questions about the speed not me i know why speed is how it is and i have no complaints at all once again that was you with the problem. welker's speed has nothing to do with what he's done or not done in the past year he's just not a very speedy guy. he does have the same agility and accelaration as steve, i know and understand that, but he's no where near as fast as him. his speed at 93 last year was just ridiculous tho im glad its back to the 80's | |
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super_mario90 Legend MS Member
Number of posts : 2188 Registration date : 2009-08-19
| Subject: Re: Understanding Speed Rating 2009-10-24, 22:49 | |
| nothing wrong with andre's 94 speed but it would be kinda nice if it was back to 97 lol | |
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OMG iTz POPPA New MS Member
Number of posts : 81 Registration date : 2009-10-14
| Subject: Re: Understanding Speed Rating 2009-10-25, 05:32 | |
| - Devo wrote:
- OMG iTz POPPA wrote:
- Devo wrote:
- OMG iTz POPPA wrote:
- idk the guy who does the ratings doesnt go only by 40 times he takes into consideration what that player has done so far this year too.
but it does sound messed up cuz i dont see heyward-bey doing anything and he has like 96 speed so yeah its kinda gay (no offense to homosexuals) their performance had nothing to do with speed ratings you can suck and still be fast so dhb's speed should be where its at he had the top 40 time in the draft last year.
but you gotta remember they re-did the whole speed system this year so alot of fast guys speed went down as a result. but as the season is going on alot of those guys get there high speed ratings back like chris johnson of the raiders who was a 97 last year started the season at 91 then moved back up to 97 They split the speeds up into different sections. Acceleration and Agility actually mean something this year. Wes Welker is 86 speed but has 95 agility steve smith 97 and 97 agility Wes welker doesnt have the same blow away speed like steve smith but he can make the quick cuts just as good. comprende? you say comprende like you've explained this to me before. you were the one with the questions about the speed not me i know why speed is how it is and i have no complaints at all once again that was you with the problem. welker's speed has nothing to do with what he's done or not done in the past year he's just not a very speedy guy. he does have the same agility and accelaration as steve, i know and understand that, but he's no where near as fast as him. his speed at 93 last year was just ridiculous tho im glad its back to the 80's actually i didnt make this thread i came in and explained how speed worked, then u replyed to my explanation like a jackass so i replyed to your reply with a jackass remark. comprende? | |
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Bruce Wayne New MS Member
Number of posts : 58 Registration date : 2009-08-02
| Subject: Re: Understanding Speed Rating 2009-10-25, 07:23 | |
| If u ask me i say its not all about da 4O tym...wen dey run da 4O dey hav light shoes nd underarmor tights dat weigh nuthn...nd plus n da gms ppl dnt run their 40 tym dey run slower | |
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OMG iTz POPPA New MS Member
Number of posts : 81 Registration date : 2009-10-14
| Subject: Re: Understanding Speed Rating 2009-10-25, 08:41 | |
| I know They take some of what they do on the field into consideration. Just look at the message of the day vids in the xboxlive/online menu. Chad Henne got boosted up 6 points in his overall because he Had like 200 yards against the Jets. Felix Jones got tuned down , Desean Jackson had a speed and accel boost so far this year. I know what im talkin bout. | |
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OMG iTz POPPA New MS Member
Number of posts : 81 Registration date : 2009-10-14
| Subject: Re: Understanding Speed Rating 2009-10-25, 08:45 | |
| just done expect nmadi's speed to go down into the 80's cause its just common sense that he's fast. dont expect
The only big flaw i see in the speed is that larry fitzgerald is a 89 speed but he can outrun Troy Polamalu, and that the SS from the vikings can catch up to chris johnson on a break away. Other than that the speeds are a perfect representation of what u see on Sundays. | |
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Devo Madden School Veteran
Number of posts : 1120 Registration date : 2009-02-28
| Subject: Re: Understanding Speed Rating 2009-10-25, 13:06 | |
| - OMG iTz POPPA wrote:
- Devo wrote:
- OMG iTz POPPA wrote:
- Devo wrote:
- OMG iTz POPPA wrote:
- idk the guy who does the ratings doesnt go only by 40 times he takes into consideration what that player has done so far this year too.
but it does sound messed up cuz i dont see heyward-bey doing anything and he has like 96 speed so yeah its kinda gay (no offense to homosexuals) their performance had nothing to do with speed ratings you can suck and still be fast so dhb's speed should be where its at he had the top 40 time in the draft last year.
but you gotta remember they re-did the whole speed system this year so alot of fast guys speed went down as a result. but as the season is going on alot of those guys get there high speed ratings back like chris johnson of the raiders who was a 97 last year started the season at 91 then moved back up to 97 They split the speeds up into different sections. Acceleration and Agility actually mean something this year. Wes Welker is 86 speed but has 95 agility steve smith 97 and 97 agility Wes welker doesnt have the same blow away speed like steve smith but he can make the quick cuts just as good. comprende? you say comprende like you've explained this to me before. you were the one with the questions about the speed not me i know why speed is how it is and i have no complaints at all once again that was you with the problem. welker's speed has nothing to do with what he's done or not done in the past year he's just not a very speedy guy. he does have the same agility and accelaration as steve, i know and understand that, but he's no where near as fast as him. his speed at 93 last year was just ridiculous tho im glad its back to the 80's actually i didnt make this thread i came in and explained how speed worked, then u replyed to my explanation like a jackass so i replyed to your reply with a jackass remark. comprende? ok so you tried to explain how speed worked and i clearly agreed with you about the acceleration and agility thing if you actually read instead of assumed im sure you woulda read that. my only disagreement was with DHB's statement and that wasn't no jackass remark. you said his speed should go down and i said it should stay the same i don't see any jackass remark in any of that | |
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OMG iTz POPPA New MS Member
Number of posts : 81 Registration date : 2009-10-14
| Subject: Re: Understanding Speed Rating 2009-10-25, 13:22 | |
| They should'nt go down 100% because of performance. But there should be a drop in other stats. He's been a bust this year i dont even think he has a reception... i havent seen him on sportscenter. Celek has more highlights than him. Steve Mcnair is dead and he has more highlights this year. hold up i almost caught madden rage and started argueing over the internet. u win the arguement, if u wasnt argueing u win anyways. | |
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*R3D*D3VIL* New MS Member
Number of posts : 32 Registration date : 2009-10-19
| Subject: Re: Understanding Speed Rating 2009-10-25, 14:34 | |
| Desean Jackson SPD=98 LETS GO!!! | |
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MiamiXCanes Madden Writers
Number of posts : 1661 Registration date : 2009-09-14
| Subject: Re: Understanding Speed Rating 2009-10-25, 15:23 | |
| this isnt really all that hard to understand. its a thing called GAME SPEED and im sure that is mostly what makes up the speed ratings Track stars run fast 40's....football players can translate that to field | |
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super_mario90 Legend MS Member
Number of posts : 2188 Registration date : 2009-08-19
| Subject: Re: Understanding Speed Rating 2009-10-26, 03:40 | |
| - OMG iTz POPPA wrote:
- just done expect nmadi's speed to go down into the 80's cause its just common sense that he's fast. dont expect
The only big flaw i see in the speed is that larry fitzgerald is a 89 speed but he can outrun Troy Polamalu, and that the SS from the vikings can catch up to chris johnson on a break away. Other than that the speeds are a perfect representation of what u see on Sundays. fitzgerald can't out run troy the reason he had a big TD in the superbowl was because troy was covering someone else and fitz was wide open to the ponit were troy couldn't catch up to him come on now fitz is slow as hell thats the right speed for him | |
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Rondell50 New MS Member
Number of posts : 73 Registration date : 2009-07-16
| Subject: Re: Understanding Speed Rating 2009-10-26, 13:19 | |
| Andre Johnson ran a 10.59 faster than Adrian Peterson. He would beat Adrian Peterson in a race anyday. You might wanna look at some old Pro Bowl footage and Watch him win the relays beating even Darrell Green the fastest to ever play. | |
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dionte91 New MS Member
Number of posts : 5 Registration date : 2009-10-27
| Subject: Re: Understanding Speed Rating 2009-10-27, 21:34 | |
| madden takes into consideration alot of different stats areas. Speed is overated and yall making a big deal about it. | |
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super_mario90 Legend MS Member
Number of posts : 2188 Registration date : 2009-08-19
| Subject: Re: Understanding Speed Rating 2009-10-27, 21:58 | |
| i don't really care but come on now andre johnson he's gotta have 97 speed
nothing is wrong with 94 speed but why is his speed 94 and not 97 and he's concidered one of the fastest wr's in the league
IMO i think he's just to good to have 97 speed and if u look at the majority of the speed wr's most of them suck and are rookies or sophmore's
and calvin johnson should be 97 as well but maybe he's just to good to have 97 speed i guess | |
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