Michael Vick: Comming back? or No?

You think MV7 is coming back? If he is coming back then to what team? Will he still be explosive and have the cannon arm? Will he be even better? Maybe good enough to run Wildcat and Get a Superbowl ring? Just maybe. But the question is Will Rodger Goodell let him come back and like i said before if he did what team would risk getting him? The fans that love dogs will go CRAZY If there team sighned him.

he is definetly going to come back atleast i hope so and even though the falcons wont want him some team will pick him up and he will be a beast and probably rush for 1000 yards.

Radi0ActivWaste wrote:

he is definetly going to come back atleast i hope so and even though the falcons wont want him some team will pick him up and he will be a beast and probably rush for 1000 yards.

Yeah he is beast he holds the record for most touchdowns and rush yards by a quarterback.

i want him to be a buc next season, but thats no surprise to anybody

he will come back and all i hope for is that he stays away from the patriots, i dont want him in NE.. we got Brady and thats all the qb we need.

yeah true but i wouldnt put it past NE to want to bring him in for their wildcat formation, wouldnt be the craziest thing

[TFH] SdGator wrote:

yeah true but i wouldnt put it past NE to want to bring him in for their wildcat formation, wouldnt be the craziest thing

i wouldnt either but i think it would be hard to see belichick even thinking about doin the wildcat.. only trick plays we really use is the direct snap to a rb or the statue of liberty... i really dont think belichick is gona impliment the wildcat in NE.. but still it wouldnt be surprising if he did it if he was able to get vick cheap enough..

i say that he get reinstated but i dnt kno wat team caus cowboys are trying to change there MO by cleanin up the lockerroom..i think he will have all his skills but maybe be better caus he is more mature...ppl gotta remember that he wasnt a troublemaker he did do anything wrong teamwise he had 1 off the field issue that really isnt repeatable caus it isnt addicting like drinkin or drugs or fighting or domestic abuse stuff like that so he wont be in any more trouble so i believe he is a low risk as far as that goes the real question is if he is a risk on the field...also it might be hard for him to land to a team caus all teams are worried about character issue with players like these players are all saints and have no life and cant mess up...its aight tho if godell isnt a bitchmade punk he should be allowed back into the league.

He'll be back eventually, but I don't think it will be until 2010.

Remember, he hasn't even served a suspension yet from the NFL. He's been in JAIL, but it's not like that counts as part of an NFL disciplinary action. For those of you that will say, "he's paid his debt to society," that is true, and his reward for that is FREEDOM. But he has not paid his debt to the NFL for blatantly lying to commissioner Goodell and bringing a ton of negative publicity to the league.

I'm not one of those PETA people that would go crazy if Vick were in my town, but what he did was sick and heinous no matter who you are or what you stand for. I'm a hunter myself and I shoot several animals every year, but I cannot fathom torturing an animal. Vick is a bad, stupid person, plain and simple. I remember someone asked him a few questions during the controversy, but before the trial, and he was like, "There's still plenty of fans to support Mike Vick," and then the interviewer asked, "in the end, will you be exonerated?" and Vick said, "Man....no comment." My guess is, he didn't know what the word exonerated meant, but it sounded just dumb, guilty, and DUMB.

He won't start again at QB for a few years. Those specific skills deteriorate fast, plus he was too stupid to be a good passer in the first place, so he's going to have a hell of a time getting his brain (what little he has) back into football.

PIG BENIS wrote:

Remember, he hasn't even served a suspension yet from the NFL. He's been in JAIL, but it's not like that counts as part of an NFL disciplinary action. For those of you that will say, "he's paid his debt to society," that is true, and his reward for that is FREEDOM. But he has not paid his debt to the NFL for blatantly lying to commissioner Goodell and bringing a ton of negative publicity to the league.

I'm not one of those PETA people that would go crazy if Vick were in my town, but what he did was sick and heinous no matter who you are or what you stand for. I'm a hunter myself and I shoot several animals every year, but I cannot fathom torturing an animal. Vick is a bad, stupid person, plain and simple. I remember someone asked him a few questions during the controversy, but before the trial, and he was like, "There's still plenty of fans to support Mike Vick," and then the interviewer asked, "in the end, will you be exonerated?" and Vick said, "Man....no comment." My guess is, he didn't know what the word exonerated meant, but it sounded just dumb, guilty, and DUMB.

He won't start again at QB for a few years. Those specific skills deteriorate fast, plus he was too stupid to be a good passer in the first place, so he's going to have a hell of a time getting his brain (what little he has) back into football.

I am from Micheal Vick's area. no one here condones what he has done. however, with that being said....don't you think that going to jail (over an animal) is enough debt for him to pay son? we do!

Militant X 1 wrote:

I am from Micheal Vick's area. no one here condones what he has done. however, with that being said....don't you think that going to jail (over an animal) is enough debt for him to pay son? we do!

First off, I'm not your son. If that was used in an endearing way, then I apologize, but around here, we don't call people "son" unless we're talking to our actual son, or to a young kid.

Second, you're wrong when you say he went to jail "over an animal." That explanation is not an accurate portrayal of Vick's crimes.

1. He funded an illegal gambling ring. Most are unaware that illegal gambling by an NFL player is grounds for a possible LIFETIME BAN from the league. The reason for this is because the NFL cannot have players gambling illegally in secret, because that means they could be betting on NFL games. Example: Vick bets $5,000 that Dog A will defeat Dog B, but since the bet is illicit and secret, the real arrangement could be that "Dog A" is the Atlanta Falcons and "Dog B" is the Philadelphia Eagles, so Vick could be betting on his own game. This isn't how it went down, but that is why the rule against illegal gambling is so strict in the NFL and in pretty much all major pro sports.

2. Vick was buying, selling, breeding, and trading dogs with the sole purpose of having those dogs fight to the death. That is not a simple crime "over an animal," that is systematically torturing many, many animals over the course of about 5 years. That's fricken sick, man. I think that since we're all football fans here, we're a little bit numb to violence and fighting anyway, but if you'd go actually see a dog fight, I don't think you'd view Vick in the same way anymore. Dog fights are no "glorious, gutsy, romantic battle" like you might think. One dog tears up another dog until it is crippled and crying, and then finally until its heart stops beating.

3. Vick personally executed dogs. Many people I have talked to think that Vick was just the money man, and that his boys were doing the real dirty work. While Vick's friends probably did perform most of the actual deeds, Vick himself was convicted of executing several dogs by means of hanging, drowning, electrocution, and gunshots. The dude aint right. He's a sick individual. Like I said before, I've hunted my whole life, and killed hundreds of animals myself, but if you wanted me to electrocute a captive animal until its eyes popped out and smoke came out of its ears, I'd tell you F--K off in an instant and I might beat you up for encouraging something like that.

We've got a pretty messed up society. Athletes are a little bit too worshipped when OJ Simpson is still signing autographs after slaughtering two innocent people (before going to jail for good, finally) and we've got people who really WANT Vick to be forgiven.

im sorry an animal isnt s*** to me ill kill a dog for the right price ill torture that motherfucker and everything.... im one of "those" people,OJ killed people Mike killed dogs i dont see the comparison... dude should be let back in the nfl tho he wont start yet if ever, but i hella people want to see him back in...but im just gonna be flat honest...and give u a scenario... lets say i bought some brand new air force ones or jordans... and ur dogged happened to step on my s*** or something as i was walking by. and he scuffed my s***.. i would **** ur dog up... i would beat that s*** to death...(not anyone's dog in particular) and go on with my life as if nothing ever happened


Also PIG u say u hunt and watever, but u dont condone torturing animals yet u end animal lives for the sake of wat??? im not seeing a big difference there,he makes them fight,you walk around and shoot sht, its both actually wrong, but how can u make it seem like wat he did was more wrong

he deserves to play again, he has paid his dues and done his time, now let the man get back on the field where he belongs

NE wouldnt get him tho its not their style atleast thats wat i think and he does still have that huge contract

[STARS] Swag2Real wrote:

im sorry an animal isnt s*** to me ill kill a dog for the right price ill torture that motherfucker and everything.... im one of "those" people,OJ killed people Mike killed dogs i dont see the comparison... dude should be let back in the nfl tho he wont start yet if ever, but i hella people want to see him back in...but im just gonna be flat honest...and give u a scenario... lets say i bought some brand new air force ones or jordans... and ur dogged happened to step on my s*** or something as i was walking by. and he scuffed my s***.. i would **** ur dog up... i would beat that s*** to death...(not anyone's dog in particular) and go on with my life as if nothing ever happened


Also PIG u say u hunt and watever, but u dont condone torturing animals yet u end animal lives for the sake of wat??? im not seeing a big difference there,he makes them fight,you walk around and shoot sht, its both actually wrong, but how can u make it seem like wat he did was more wrong

Take this as you will, I mean no offense by it, but theres a racial difference when it comes to treatment of animals. One of my best friends in the whole world is black, I lift with him, I've bled with him, and I'd trust him with my 2 year old son. But he doesn't give a rat's ass about animals. He'll shoot cats just for walking in his front yard. So I don't know what the cause is of that cultural, ethnical difference, but I'm kind of used to it.

But no, you would not fvck my dog up if he jacked up your shoes. First off, I'm not a small guy. I'm not saying I'm the baddest dude you've ever seen, but I guarantee you wouldn't see me in person and think, "There's a guy that I can fvck with," and then proceed to mess with my dog because he scuffed your AF1's. Secondly, unless you had a gun on you, I doubt you'd wanna mess with my dog anyway.

Regardless, it's up to you how you want to view animals. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I can tell you how the law views it, and you'd be in major trouble for messing with an animal over a pair of shoes.

Hunting is a lot different, and once again, I'd say by and large, white people understand hunting and were brought up with it more than black people, and that's just the way of the world for better or worse. But the goal in hunting is to take an animal for food. One shot, the animal is at rest, and you have a meal as a result. If you wound an animal, it's your duty as a hunter to end its life quickly and humanely. Thats a far cry from gaining pleasure out of the extended and drawn-out pain of an animal.

Again, if the Colts signed Vick, I'd be all for it. I'd enjoy watching what he can do, and I think he'll contribute somewhere as a flanker/HB/Reggie Bush type of offensive player. I wouldn't protest, and I wouldnt really say sh1t about it. But It doesn't make sense to me that he'd be re-instated this year. I think it will be in 2010, and I think he deserves all the pain and hardship that this will cause him.

**** dogs. ill kill them once i get older. and um. mike vick should be back. he served his time now he will think twice. so he will be back but for the team. Rams really want him . but i wouldnt give up on someother teams

he will come back...im noit sure if it will be this year that we see him play...but i hope so

PIG BENIS wrote:

[STARS] Swag2Real wrote:

im sorry an animal isnt s*** to me ill kill a dog for the right price ill torture that motherfucker and everything.... im one of "those" people,OJ killed people Mike killed dogs i dont see the comparison... dude should be let back in the nfl tho he wont start yet if ever, but i hella people want to see him back in...but im just gonna be flat honest...and give u a scenario... lets say i bought some brand new air force ones or jordans... and ur dogged happened to step on my s*** or something as i was walking by. and he scuffed my s***.. i would **** ur dog up... i would beat that s*** to death...(not anyone's dog in particular) and go on with my life as if nothing ever happened


Also PIG u say u hunt and watever, but u dont condone torturing animals yet u end animal lives for the sake of wat??? im not seeing a big difference there,he makes them fight,you walk around and shoot sht, its both actually wrong, but how can u make it seem like wat he did was more wrong

Take this as you will, I mean no offense by it, but theres a racial difference when it comes to treatment of animals. One of my best friends in the whole world is black, I lift with him, I've bled with him, and I'd trust him with my 2 year old son. But he doesn't give a rat's ass about animals. He'll shoot cats just for walking in his front yard. So I don't know what the cause is of that cultural, ethnical difference, but I'm kind of used to it.

But no, you would not fvck my dog up if he jacked up your shoes. First off, I'm not a small guy. I'm not saying I'm the baddest dude you've ever seen, but I guarantee you wouldn't see me in person and think, "There's a guy that I can fvck with," and then proceed to mess with my dog because he scuffed your AF1's. Secondly, unless you had a gun on you, I doubt you'd wanna mess with my dog anyway.

Regardless, it's up to you how you want to view animals. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I can tell you how the law views it, and you'd be in major trouble for messing with an animal over a pair of shoes.

Hunting is a lot different, and once again, I'd say by and large, white people understand hunting and were brought up with it more than black people, and that's just the way of the world for better or worse. But the goal in hunting is to take an animal for food. One shot, the animal is at rest, and you have a meal as a result. If you wound an animal, it's your duty as a hunter to end its life quickly and humanely. Thats a far cry from gaining pleasure out of the extended and drawn-out pain of an animal.

Again, if the Colts signed Vick, I'd be all for it. I'd enjoy watching what he can do, and I think he'll contribute somewhere as a flanker/HB/Reggie Bush type of offensive player. I wouldn't protest, and I wouldnt really say sh1t about it. But It doesn't make sense to me that he'd be re-instated this year. I think it will be in 2010, and I think he deserves all the pain and hardship that this will cause him.

my whole thing is, ive known people that got killed and shot and stuff like that and it blows over in a week...people dont make big deals out of that... so when i see the mike vick thing, its not really a big deal to me, because its guys that are walking around right now that has done much worst, leonard little killing that woman while drunk wasnt as big of a deal and you dnt see people going crazy over wat stallworth did, or matt jones not being a role model by using his nfl money to do cocaine.....but vick being anything other than a QB right now is out of the question.. position changes occur early on in careers and majority of the dudes that change position, u never ever hear too much from them again

My guess is, Vick will be on the Cowboys, Raiders, Vikings, or Bears in 2010 and he will be some form of running back. Not a between the tackles grinder, but a wing back that runs reverses, takes pitches, and catches swing passes.

Vick sucked at QB before taking two years off. There's no way he can play NFL QB now, much less in 2010. He'll also return punts and kickoffs.

In the end, he'll be remembered as a joke. An exciting player that never materialized and made headlines for the wrong reasons. His name will be remembered along with Maurice Clarrett, Lawrence Phillips, Pacman Jones, Rae Carruth, Brian Bosworth, Brock Lesnar, - all sideshows that were more fluff than substance.

PIG BENIS wrote:

Take this as you will, I mean no offense by it, but theres a racial difference when it comes to treatment of animals. One of my best friends in the whole world is black, I lift with him, I've bled with him, and I'd trust him with my 2 year old son. But he doesn't give a rat's ass about animals. He'll shoot cats just for walking in his front yard. So I don't know what the cause is of that cultural, ethnical difference, but I'm kind of used to it.

wow! are you serious?

first....in addressing your earlier post response to mine. i am actually older than nearly everyone here at 43. my calling you or anyone else here "son" is NEVER used in a derogatory way but as communicative slang in a madden forum. everyone here knows that i don't stir up mess bruh! therefore...they are not bothered by my usage of the word "son."

secondly, what do you mean by your statements about Vick and black people in general? interestingly enough....you started off by saying; "take this as you will....i mean no offense by it! and then said the following: "there's a racial difference when it comes to treatment of animals?" and then...you mentioned the..."one of my best friends in the whole world is black." statement.this statement means absolutely nothing to us in the black community when it is spoken! and then on top of that you added..... "so i don't know what the cause is of "that cultural, ethnical difference."

now....as a black man myself....how do you expect me not to take offense to these ridiculous racial stereotypes you have made concerning my people? many of us have animals that we love and cherish (me included), and an extremely large majority of us are not cruel to animals whatsoever. so get it right! what Vick did had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with his being black! cruelty to animals is not a "black community" thing! many nationalities get involved with this illegal practice and far worse.

Ok, I'm gunna tell everyone how it is right now. You've prolly heard thos many of times before, but it's true. You can take the boy out the hood, but you can't take the hood out the boy.

White people hunt, and is that really any better? You guys wake up at 6 in the morning, go out in the woods to kill deer or whatever ur tryna kill, but yet you have a refridgerator full of food at home.
Yet black ppl fightin dogs for money is morally wrong? I'm sure Vick has been doin this since he was in high school, but now that he's a celebrity everyone makes a huge deal about it. OJ Simpson stole HIS own s***, and yet he got put away for what, like 40 years? Then you hear about some guy stealin from a bank, spendin a mil, and only gettin put away for 5 years, and is able to get paroll within the 1st year. It has to deal with being a celebrity, because I kno ppl down here you fight dogs right around the corner from the police station, and have never even had a a police come by their house with flashing lights.
I don't think any1 will ever hear of someone who isn't a celebrity doing some s*** like this, bcuz its not a big deal. Be serious, how the hell is killing dogs a crime that they own, but I could go out into these wood, kill a deer, and only get a fine cuz its not hunting season.

wat CJ said and hey killing a dog and playing in the NFL is more morally wrong than smoking coke and playing in the NFL(matt jones).................how about that

iTz DiFiiCuLT wrote:

**** dogs. ill kill them once i get older. and um. mike vick should be back. he served his time now he will think twice. so he will be back but for the team. Rams really want him . but i wouldnt give up on someother teams

justin i fucking love you..hahaha

no homo