to squib or not to squib

okay so i get mixed feeling and views from people on squibing the ball on kickoffs, ive done this pretty much since the game was released, some say its cheap and you shouldnt do it, other say its simply a tactic that can be very usefull if you do it right, this is how i see it, if i had a kicker like the boys or panthers kicker who could just boot it to the back or out of the endzone i would just do tha but david akers barely makes it to the goaline, this is why i squib whith the eagles cuz i dont have a guy that can blow it out of the endzone, if i did i would, so i see it like this, if you have the ability to put it in the back of endzone i say do it, if you have a guy that has a noodle for a leg i say squib it. lemme know your guys opinions and thoughts on the matter cuz as we all know special teams are 1/3 of the game.

if the person u playing is returning kicks/punts 4 good gains ; by all means squib it on kickoffs and kick it out of bounds on punts itz about field position

if you kick it right you will more than likely get the ball back

I hate people that squib and squibbing in general. No disrespect, but if you don't have confidence in your stick skill to tackle a guy inside the 30 than you need to lab it up. Call me stupid, but i'd rather have a guy return a kick for a TD 1/5 times, than to have him get the ball at the 40 or higher 5/5 times, but thats just me.

its not that i dont have confidence in my stick skills beacuse i do, its just that akers cant get it into the endzone alot of times and its by the time i egage his blockers he's already to the 25 and ends up at the 30-35 yard line if i could put it further kick the ball further i might have a chance at getting him at the 25 but its hard when your kicker doesnt have a huge leg, thats why i opt to squib cuz ive gotten it down pretty much i can get it to bounce around or just sit on the field either way most of the time my OPP. starts drives off at the 20-25 yard line, i dont think squibing shows a lack of stick skill, cuz either way you still gotta bob and weave your way down to the returner, i dont always squib, but alot of the time i do, if i had a kicker that had a big leg i would kick it normal but i dont so i have to improvise.

I have to agree with BRB on this one if your kicker has a crap leg then go for it but it doesnt bother me at all in general that some people do it every kickoff.

YEAH!!! i AGREE WITH ALLIAN43..sh!t push come to shove,do the same thing that's all ...or go practice it so you can do it..

i find covering kickoffs is easiest if you click on to someone else right after the kick, and user them to the return man... always remember to never break contain... meaning, if you dont make the tackle, funnel them toward hte middle of hte field... if you give them the outside, your gonna be in a big hole... squib kicks are great with like 20-30 seconds to go in a half, and you dont want to risk a return (especially with hester/ jones / jackson sitting there, they make the greased up deaf guy from family guy look silly) and would rather play coverage... however, i dont like how sometimes when you squib the return man looks at hte ball pass him, and does nothing to get it... come on man, get the damn ball.... thats my piece...

another reason i like squibing is cuz right when akers kicks it i click off of him and onto joe mays (88 hit power) who is right next to david, if he gets blocked i can again switch over and i have sean jones (88 hit power) having these two guys on my kick off teams has earned me alot of big hits and fumbles on kick offs, when i kick it normal it will go to the outside guys and i cant get control of mays or jones consistently, the returners just looking at the ball is a bit rediculous but easily countered, what i do is controll the guy in fron of my retrun man and use him to try and manually pick up the squib if he passes it ill click to my primary return man and try to get it from there, im not against people that squib, i just look at it as a tactic, high risk, high reward type deal.

ive gotten pretty good at squibbing, on rare occasions if you kick it just right you can sometimes get the ball back.....i usually get them down at the the 20 or 30 which is pretty damn good...it seems to catch sum ppl off guard and i love it when they get on the mic and say im cheating haha

I don't think the squib is cheap at all. It's just a safe strategy. Instead of giving up a small or huge kickoff return on a regular kickoff, you give up a medium kickoff return every time. It's just playing it safe.

yeah ive gotten so i can get them around the 20 yard line its really nice not to mention its easier to line people up on it, but since i dont have a guy with a huge leg i will continue to squib.

B-__-R-__-B wrote:

yeah ive gotten so i can get them around the 20 yard line its really nice not to mention its easier to line people up on it, but since i dont have a guy with a huge leg i will continue to squib.

i know im kinda off topic, but do you make your own sigs? Becuz the one you have know is pretty good!

i kick regualr on the 1st kickoffs but if seeing his return skills lets me know if i need to squib again

IBLEEDGREEN32117 wrote:

B-__-R-__-B wrote:

yeah ive gotten so i can get them around the 20 yard line its really nice not to mention its easier to line people up on it, but since i dont have a guy with a huge leg i will continue to squib.

i know im kinda off topic, but do you make your own sigs? Becuz the one you have know is pretty good!

to andswer your question IBLEEDGREEN32117 i do make my own signatures, you should PM me if you have any questions about them.

to stay on topic though i have noticed that if you hit a couple good squibs the rest of the squibs usually follow suite, if you hit a few bad ones the rest alot of the time are bad as well, for me at least.

squib whats the worst that can happen? good coverage still so when he picks up the ball guys are around him

yeah im with ish on this one. id rather give up a return 1/5 then put the dude on the 40-45-50 5/5 times. if you pick the packers (mason crosby has 99 kick power) and your playing somebody who squibs it every time. now lets say you get to the 40 each time. 15 yards and your in FG range with no wind. thats to easy to put up points and i dont want to give somebody that easy of a shot at points

If it works 4 u man keep doing it

im not against squib kicks cause if its late in the game and the guys has been murking you on the special teams side, by ALL means squib it.

I think a squib should depend more on who you're kicking 2. Harvin, Desean, Hester, sproles, Bush, and a few others deserve to be squib kicked against. It can be the difference in the game.

MiamiXCanes wrote:

yeah im with ish on this one. id rather give up a return 1/5 then put the dude on the 40-45-50 5/5 times. if you pick the packers (mason crosby has 99 kick power) and your playing somebody who squibs it every time. now lets say you get to the 40 each time. 15 yards and your in FG range with no wind. thats to easy to put up points and i dont want to give somebody that easy of a shot at points

exactly. I don't care who is returning the ball. I'd rather give up a return 1/5 times, then let them start their drive around the 40-45 yard line. Also, i have confidence in my stick that i can stop the return. If you're playing madden scared, then that's a problem.

what if you could hit it at the 20-25 yard line a majority of the time and only allow it to go out of bounds 1/5 times? it does take skill to go down and cover a squib, its not like you automatically kick it out of bounds or they get a good return, when i squib it 1/5 times the drives start out around the 40, the squib also allows you to line people up on kickoff easier wich is another turnover opportunity, akers hardly ever gets it deep enough into the enzone to be effective so at the minimum the returner gets to the 25-30 yard line and plus that if he's a good return man i just feel more comfortable squibing, but to each his own both styles of kicking have thier advantages and disadvantages.

i kick it deep every time. and i also user my kicker and get him around the blocks. you get your other 10 players running there lanes (perfect contain) and you also get the kicker down the field (he normaly stays back or runs crazy slow). i havent given up a return in forever doing this

then i deffinetly cant knock you for it! if its workin keep doin it, i guess my advice to everyone would be do what works best for you, for me its squibing, for miami its regular kicking both are effective if executed properly, im gonna try your way a few times though miami.

i do it occasionaly, but it is normally to shut down the elite KR who has burned me once or twice
user tackling is one of my weaknesses and i work on it, but part of madden is also knowing your weaknesses and adapting