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Th3 Ac3r Hall of Fame MS Member
Number of posts : 1012 Registration date : 2009-12-13
| Subject: Re: Do you need nanos to be good at D? 2010-01-27, 17:17 | |
| You dont need them, but they help in certain situations so why not have a few | |
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sgibs7 Rookie MS Member
Number of posts : 102 Registration date : 2009-06-15
| Subject: Re: Do you need nanos to be good at D? 2010-01-27, 17:59 | |
| Most people don't even have tje "correct definition" of what a nano blitz is.
Yes, to be elite in tournament play you need them.
No, for online ranked games you don't need them to win. | |
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MiamiXCanes Madden Writers
Number of posts : 1661 Registration date : 2009-09-14
| Subject: Re: Do you need nanos to be good at D? 2010-01-27, 22:08 | |
| as ive played more and more tournaments this year ive slowly found that you do need nanos to compete at the highest level. ive learned that tourny play is TOTALY different and that you need certin things to really be good. hopefully by the time madden 11 rolls around ill have my game to the point where i can compete at MLG tournys and such | |
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Moore's Pats All-Pro MS Member
Number of posts : 474 Registration date : 2009-08-25
| Subject: Re: Do you need nanos to be good at D? 2010-01-28, 01:55 | |
| Dang Crazy u got it like that | |
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cody2009 Rookie MS Member
Number of posts : 186 Registration date : 2009-12-25
| Subject: Re: Do you need nanos to be good at D? 2010-01-28, 14:13 | |
| i never nano... and i win... i just call good plays... i do exotic blitzs and they work espically when people try to get the ball off quick they see people coming buy then some drop into zone ... and think the hot route is open and its gone the other way for a pick.. also great stick skill is the first thing u need ,, screw everything else... | |
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bigbuddah Legend MS Member
Number of posts : 2949 Registration date : 2008-05-14
| Subject: Re: Do you need nanos to be good at D? 2010-01-28, 14:40 | |
| no u dont need nanos..nanos are bailout plays players use so they dont have to play defense....all u need is good playcalling and stick skills | |
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sgibs7 Rookie MS Member
Number of posts : 102 Registration date : 2009-06-15
| Subject: Re: Do you need nanos to be good at D? 2010-01-28, 15:06 | |
| There's no true nanos in this madden 2010 gm. Because slide protection and savy power blocking picks them up.
Let's learn what is first
ill throw a number out there that 99.9% of the so called nanos ur refering to are simply overload blitzes...that's all it is...no difference if you call a default blitz or set one up.
If you rush 5 or more defenders it is NOT a nano. Most cry wolf when pressure gets to them. | |
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Th3 Ac3r Hall of Fame MS Member
Number of posts : 1012 Registration date : 2009-12-13
| Subject: Re: Do you need nanos to be good at D? 2010-01-28, 17:18 | |
| - sgibs7 wrote:
- There's no true nanos in this madden 2010 gm. Because slide protection and savy power blocking picks them up.
Let's learn what is first
ill throw a number out there that 99.9% of the so called nanos ur refering to are simply overload blitzes...that's all it is...no difference if you call a default blitz or set one up.
If you rush 5 or more defenders it is NOT a nano. Most cry wolf when pressure gets to them. Ya know gibs, now that you say that all nanos ive ever seen have rushed at least 5 people.. But I guess thats because its so hard to rush 4 people and have 1 get through untouched | |
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sgibs7 Rookie MS Member
Number of posts : 102 Registration date : 2009-06-15
| Subject: Re: Do you need nanos to be good at D? 2010-01-28, 18:31 | |
| Yesssss. Exactly acer. A nano only brings 4 or fewer and slide protection does not bring stop it.
Bringing 5 defenders is a OVERLOAD you see it in the NFL. It literally does what its called. It sends 3 defenders at 2 offensive linemen. Easy math there tells you who wins this battle. | |
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Vaughnilla619 Rookie MS Member
Number of posts : 205 Registration date : 2010-01-04
| Subject: Re: Do you need nanos to be good at D? 2010-01-29, 15:48 | |
| thats when you send someone right over the middle and quick throw. or screens.
nano's are a joke. whens the last time you see a QB get tackled b4 he hands a ball off?
id rather have good stick skills then use that garbage... its just cheap to me. ball like a man, not like a B*tch, or else someone will make you their B*tch with what i wrote above ^^^ | |
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sgibs7 Rookie MS Member
Number of posts : 102 Registration date : 2009-06-15
| Subject: Re: Do you need nanos to be good at D? 2010-01-29, 16:17 | |
| There are no consistent nanos this year so I'm not to sure what your referring to exactly... | |
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Vaughnilla619 Rookie MS Member
Number of posts : 205 Registration date : 2010-01-04
| Subject: Re: Do you need nanos to be good at D? 2010-01-29, 16:20 | |
| reffering to people that run that every single play... i mean its not a problem to get around... id just like doin somthing else then screens and quick slants | |
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sgibs7 Rookie MS Member
Number of posts : 102 Registration date : 2009-06-15
| Subject: Re: Do you need nanos to be good at D? 2010-01-29, 16:24 | |
| You can't nano this year or last year. You can overload blitz...there's no reason for it to be considered cheese.
The opposite of bringing pressure seems like your style of defense...how is it fair to claim coverage defense isn't cheese?
Nanos were rampant in Madden 08 360/ps3 and most every current gen gm. Madden 09 and 10 they don't exist like they once did.
I assure you the "nanos" you were facing were overloads. | |
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Vaughnilla619 Rookie MS Member
Number of posts : 205 Registration date : 2010-01-04
| Subject: Re: Do you need nanos to be good at D? 2010-01-29, 16:34 | |
| okay well overloading every single play is pretty boring. but isnt "overloading" a certain area still a nano?
for example lets say the offense is running a 2 TE set and they are blocking. you rush your 4 lineman and 2 MLB's... so everyone should be accounted for in your 6 vs 6 conclusion. but they pinch the DL in and reblits both MLB and but them right on the line between the DT... someone does get through about 90 percent of the time unless you tell the line to slide prtect which might buy you some extra time...
nano... overloads... its all the same.
just annoying to run into EVERY SINGLE PLAY | |
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Vaughnilla619 Rookie MS Member
Number of posts : 205 Registration date : 2010-01-04
| Subject: Re: Do you need nanos to be good at D? 2010-01-29, 16:36 | |
| and no sir im not a coverage whore...
i run the multiple D and my base formation the whole game is the 46. not exactly what most F@G d's consist of. | |
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sgibs7 Rookie MS Member
Number of posts : 102 Registration date : 2009-06-15
| Subject: Re: Do you need nanos to be good at D? 2010-01-29, 16:49 | |
| Nanos would get through untouched EVERYTIME no matter what.
With slide protection that drastically lowers the success of the blitz. Any time the defense rushes more then 4 defenders its considered overload blitzing...there coverage is very weak and its the offenses responsibility to pick up the gaps that the defense is filling.
By blocking more players you get a one on one matchup vs blocker and rusher. If the rusher beats the blocker that can't be considered cheese.
Nanos also had PERFECT coverage. As you said this year its so easy to pick apart someone who blitzes...that's nc there sending 5-6 at the qb...which in return leaves hugeeee wholes to attack the defense with.
There used to be nanos where you could rush three defenders and shoot a guy free everytime and still have 8 defenders to thw offenses 5 wr/te/hb. | |
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sgibs7 Rookie MS Member
Number of posts : 102 Registration date : 2009-06-15
| Subject: Re: Do you need nanos to be good at D? 2010-01-29, 16:51 | |
| - Vaughnilla619 wrote:
- and no sir im not a coverage whore...
i run the multiple D and my base formation the whole game is the 46. not exactly what most F@G d's consist of. No problem man, its just so many perceive aggressive pressure as if its cheating and or a glitch. Just trying to reducate here! | |
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Vaughnilla619 Rookie MS Member
Number of posts : 205 Registration date : 2010-01-04
| Subject: Re: Do you need nanos to be good at D? 2010-01-29, 16:57 | |
| hahahaha yeah, naw it aint cheating... just overly annoying | |
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Crunk Moderator
Number of posts : 2578 Registration date : 2008-03-10
| Subject: Re: Do you need nanos to be good at D? 2010-01-29, 16:58 | |
| You dont need nano's, but versus someone who playmakers it would be hard to stop them if you just rush 3 or 4. I like to send outside pressure mixed with inside, but like Gibs says it leaves holes (Mostly the flats) | |
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Th3 Ac3r Hall of Fame MS Member
Number of posts : 1012 Registration date : 2009-12-13
| Subject: Re: Do you need nanos to be good at D? 2010-01-29, 17:32 | |
| Vaughn, an overload isnt a nano.. Overloads are all around in the NFL.. Ok, lets take the situation you described.. They pinch the line and put the MLB's between the DT's.. You pinch the line, problem solved.. Yes it is 6 on 6 but they are overloading a gap, and you cant expect a tight end from the other side of the formation to come sprinting around the line and pick up the block when his assignment is to seal the edge.. When someone does that, thats when you need to adapt and come out in shotgun or pinch your line | |
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Swag Escobar Exclusive Member
Number of posts : 1156 Registration date : 2008-10-26
| Subject: Re: Do you need nanos to be good at D? 2010-01-29, 17:38 | |
| Pinching doesnt even work that well vs some nanos.... overloads my ass in the real NFL if u stack guys in 1 area the offensive line depending onif they see it or not.... they do line adjustment and the center basically tell everyone who to block for example the TE wouldnt be the one running from the other side in a real life game they would take the outside rushers to allow the tackles and guards to get someone inside... madden doesnt do that particularly well so. yea when ur sending 4 guys like that in madden consistently u need like 6-7 blockers which gets stupid to block 4 ppl ,a 6 man rush is a overload if thats wat ur talking about those are valid thats just brining more than the oline or like in a if u blitz 1 side of the o-line with like 4-5 ppl but stacking them so someone instantly flies in doesnt happen that much but madden has sucky blocking | |
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Swag Escobar Exclusive Member
Number of posts : 1156 Registration date : 2008-10-26
| Subject: Re: Do you need nanos to be good at D? 2010-01-29, 17:49 | |
| overloading is also when the lineman and linebackers attack 1 spot for example if a DE lines up infront of a offensive tackle and lets say they crash in using madden terminology... but um they crash in and the DE runs into the guard that leaves the tackle wondering who to block... on this game a center or guard could be right there and watch ur person run right to the QB... i know wat overloads are i do the s*** out of those...slide protection can kill my s*** easy or give u time to move nanos u need more than pinching to stop that | |
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