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B-__-R-__-B Hall of Fame MS Member
Number of posts : 1999 Registration date : 2010-01-07
| Subject: 4-3 vs. 3-4 2010-05-10, 13:41 | |
| okay so im curious to know what you guys use, im curious to know if people really run base 3-4 or 4-3 scheme's anymore or if everyone is on the other formations in books like the 4-4, 46, odd-split, 2-4-5 etc.... this is not what formation is better it is what do you use out of the two, and when i say 4-3 vs. 3-4 i thats exactly what i mean im not talkin 4-4, odd-split, or 46 im talkin do you run a 3-4 base defense or a 4-3 base defense so the actual 3-4 & 4-3 formations and plays let me know what you guys run, ill start it out.
i run a legit 4-3 scheme i use all three formations over, under, & normal each one brings something different and unique to the table. *if there are enough guys that run 4-3 base scheme's like actually use the 4-3 formations ill do a writeup on the 4-3 and explain my 4-3 scheme and thinking but if not that many people run it i wont as i want to make posts that help as many people on this site as i can. | |
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wayne019 Hall of Fame MS Member
Number of posts : 1179 Registration date : 2008-12-26
| Subject: Re: 4-3 vs. 3-4 2010-05-10, 13:53 | |
| i use the 3-4 more i just like having more coverage and you can have better nanos | |
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Militant X 1 Madden School Veteran
Number of posts : 2436 Registration date : 2008-11-19
| Subject: Re: 4-3 vs. 3-4 2010-05-10, 14:01 | |
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Modrewgnu Administrator
Number of posts : 3253 Registration date : 2008-02-23
| Subject: Re: 4-3 vs. 3-4 2010-05-10, 14:02 | |
| I run the 46 as my base scheme. I have always tried to get into the 3-4, but the jags have never had the personnel to run it effectively. | |
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irobson Rookie MS Member
Number of posts : 126 Registration date : 2010-01-21
| Subject: Re: 4-3 vs. 3-4 2010-05-10, 14:46 | |
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layinWOOD All-Pro MS Member
Number of posts : 275 Registration date : 2010-03-14
| Subject: Re: 4-3 vs. 3-4 2010-05-10, 15:02 | |
| 3-4 all day. Im not someone who nanos or blitzes very much. I count alot on zone coverage. I try to play 4-3 every year but always end up with my 3-4. I find there is too many gaps in 4-3 zone. Where in 3-4 I can drop 3 or 4 extra linebackers back into coverage. | |
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bigbuddah Legend MS Member
Number of posts : 2949 Registration date : 2008-05-14
| Subject: Re: 4-3 vs. 3-4 2010-05-10, 15:06 | |
| I run the 3-4. The 3-4 allows me to be more agressive letting me bring some faster guys and having excellent coverage. The downfall is when I do not blitz the 3 man rush doesn't get pressure. I'm a sim guy as everyone knows so the blitzes I have aren't nanos but overloads and bringing more blitxers than the offense has blockers. With the 3-4 u can flatten out the coverage and still bring 5 rushers and overloading 1 side of the line is less noticable. | |
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AirMailXpress7 New MS Member
Number of posts : 14 Registration date : 2010-01-20
| Subject: Re: 4-3 vs. 3-4 2010-05-10, 16:28 | |
| well im gonna have to be the odd one out here cause i use a 4-3 playbook in TEN however i use mostly 4-4 but i still mix in some 4-3 if i am having trouble against someone who can beat my 4-4 which usually isnt too often but still i like having it to switch it up if i need to...i would definitely be interested in learning some more about the 4-3 because i dont feel like i put it to use as much as i could be doing because i don't think im as comfortable with knowing how to set it up effectively like i am with the 4-4 | |
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B-__-R-__-B Hall of Fame MS Member
Number of posts : 1999 Registration date : 2010-01-07
| Subject: Re: 4-3 vs. 3-4 2010-05-10, 19:37 | |
| seems like alot of people are rollin 3-4 wich was expected i just wanted to see how many 4-3 users were out there, looks like were a dying breed, i dont plan on switching to the 3-4 anytime soon, not beacuse its not good beacuse it is, but beacuse its not me and the ealges just really dont fit in a 3-4 scheme IMO, they are a perfect fit in the 4-3 & 4-4, its cool to see everyones views on it though, appreciate it guys! | |
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MiamiXCanes Madden Writers
Number of posts : 1661 Registration date : 2009-09-14
| Subject: Re: 4-3 vs. 3-4 2010-05-10, 21:08 | |
| ive tried so hard, but i cant get into the 4-3. i just cant run it. the messed up part is i cant run the 3-4 either...so not to go against the question but, i run 4-4 and alot of odd split, nickle, and goalline | |
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XtremeWTRocker Rookie MS Member
Number of posts : 202 Registration date : 2010-03-31
| Subject: Re: 4-3 vs. 3-4 2010-05-10, 21:56 | |
| i use 4-3 every once in a while, but mainly because its in the 46 playbook. great change of pace | |
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AirMailXpress7 New MS Member
Number of posts : 14 Registration date : 2010-01-20
| Subject: Re: 4-3 vs. 3-4 2010-05-10, 21:57 | |
| BRB any tips on the 4-3 outta the TEN book since you use it too? I just don't even know where to start | |
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B-__-R-__-B Hall of Fame MS Member
Number of posts : 1999 Registration date : 2010-01-07
| Subject: Re: 4-3 vs. 3-4 2010-05-10, 23:27 | |
| - MiamiXCanes wrote:
- ive tried so hard, but i cant get into the 4-3. i just cant run it. the messed up part is i cant run the 3-4 either...so not to go against the question but, i run 4-4 and alot of odd split, nickle, and goalline
aye whatever works right?! i cant knock ya for it, those are good formations, i was just was tryina get a feel for what people tend to run, seems like there's alot of 3-4 guys, its all good though. | |
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Alex510 Rookie MS Member
Number of posts : 108 Registration date : 2008-11-27
| Subject: Re: 4-3 vs. 3-4 2010-05-11, 02:10 | |
| I run TENN's PB. I run more 4-3 than 4-4 though. I only run 4-4 about 15% of the game.
4-3 My Run D is top notch, I never ever allow more than 50 yards rushing even if they are a goal line abuser. Pass D is a little tricky with 4-3, you just gotta mix it up and hope for an INT. | |
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ticklemeelmo All-Pro MS Member
Number of posts : 461 Registration date : 2009-11-15
| Subject: Re: 4-3 vs. 3-4 2010-05-11, 02:51 | |
| i run the 3-4 but i was a pretty big 4-3 guy for a bit, till i started playing with the ravens religiously then i made the permanent switch.
also i was looking through espn.com the other day and i thought i read that the eagles were switching to the 3-4. it also might have been the redskins and i got confused cause of the whole mcnabb trade, but im pretty sure one of them is making the switch. | |
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B-__-R-__-B Hall of Fame MS Member
Number of posts : 1999 Registration date : 2010-01-07
| Subject: Re: 4-3 vs. 3-4 2010-05-11, 03:29 | |
| - ticklemeelmo wrote:
- i run the 3-4 but i was a pretty big 4-3 guy for a bit, till i started playing with the ravens religiously then i made the permanent switch.
also i was looking through espn.com the other day and i thought i read that the eagles were switching to the 3-4. it also might have been the redskins and i got confused cause of the whole mcnabb trade, but im pretty sure one of them is making the switch. its the skins i believe, the eagles dont have a NT for a 3-4 they have good OLB's for a 3-4 scheme but sean mcdermott in the post mini camp said they will stay true to thier base scheme (4-3), he feels like if they stay true to thier base scheme they'll have more success than say if they switched to a 3-4, the eagles do things backwards alot of the time they get the prototypical 3-4 OLB's and put thier hands on the ground and let them rush the passer from there, i mean antonio dixon is 6'3 322 lbs. but he's not a 2 gap nose, he's a 4-3 DT, i dono that bunk could hold up in the midde as a nose either, but im pretty sure you read it about the skins goin to the 3-4 cuz i know they are for sure. | |
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Oldstalecheetos All-Pro MS Member
Number of posts : 483 Registration date : 2009-12-05
| Subject: Re: 4-3 vs. 3-4 2010-05-11, 23:59 | |
| - ticklemeelmo wrote:
- i run the 3-4 but i was a pretty big 4-3 guy for a bit, till i started playing with the ravens religiously then i made the permanent switch.
also i was looking through espn.com the other day and i thought i read that the eagles were switching to the 3-4. it also might have been the redskins and i got confused cause of the whole mcnabb trade, but im pretty sure one of them is making the switch. it was the skins... thats why hanesworth has his diaper in a bustle... | |
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Ant1010 I Play Wii All-Pro MS Member
Number of posts : 481 Registration date : 2009-12-26
| Subject: Re: 4-3 vs. 3-4 2010-05-12, 09:12 | |
| I don't refer myself as a 4-3 user, i refer to myself as a 4 down lineman user. I can convert a Nickel or Dime into a 4-3 type. My favorite formation is 4-3 over. Every formation i use defensively i create a 4-4. Denver is perfect for it and they have yet to let me down.
Ayers Peterson i forgot the other DT Moss
Woodyard Williams Dummervil
Cb1 Bailey Cb2 Dawkins
FS- Bruton SS(user) Barnett
If i play a team like Philly or Oakland or teams with speedy WR's. I put Goodman at FS and Smith at CB1.
I shift the LB's to the left and shift to d-line to the right to kind of protect me and bring Barrett in the box. Any 4-3 user, look into Zip shoot gut, it's an amazing play | |
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wayne019 Hall of Fame MS Member
Number of posts : 1179 Registration date : 2008-12-26
| Subject: Re: 4-3 vs. 3-4 2010-05-12, 10:56 | |
| wait. if they have speedy wide outs you take champ out from the number 1 corner....and Dawkins is number 2 damn wtf but if it works for u then i guess its ok | |
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Ant1010 I Play Wii All-Pro MS Member
Number of posts : 481 Registration date : 2009-12-26
| Subject: Re: 4-3 vs. 3-4 2010-05-12, 14:42 | |
| Champ Bailey is always on the field. What are you talking about? | |
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killem2012 New MS Member
Number of posts : 13 Registration date : 2010-04-28
| Subject: Re: 4-3 vs. 3-4 2010-05-12, 15:01 | |
| 4-3 for a change of pace from 4-4 | |
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Alex510 Rookie MS Member
Number of posts : 108 Registration date : 2008-11-27
| Subject: Re: 4-3 vs. 3-4 2010-05-12, 16:14 | |
| I'm having a terrible time defending the pass lately with 4-3.. my last two opponents have gone 18/21 and 19/22. | |
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Ant1010 I Play Wii All-Pro MS Member
Number of posts : 481 Registration date : 2009-12-26
| Subject: Re: 4-3 vs. 3-4 2010-05-12, 17:44 | |
| Do you drop lineman? That's the key to the 4-3. The 4-3 zone blitzing is way better than the 3-4 zone blitzing. In the NFL they don't drop lineman though | |
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Football500 New MS Member
Number of posts : 60 Registration date : 2009-04-14
| Subject: Re: 4-3 vs. 3-4 2010-05-13, 20:06 | |
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Oldstalecheetos All-Pro MS Member
Number of posts : 483 Registration date : 2009-12-05
| Subject: Re: 4-3 vs. 3-4 2010-05-13, 23:24 | |
| wow, dawks at cb eh? im gonna check that shiz out... hows his man coverage rating? | |
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