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PostSubject: Re: Cheesing and Abusing   2010-03-23, 20:02

Haha yeah that is not cheating lol. its just being smarter than the other person
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PostSubject: Re: Cheesing and Abusing   2010-03-23, 23:25

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I'm just going to come out and say this that if someones offense is based around RCing or abusing the outside slant or some other cheesin, abusin play then madden has seriously gone downhill. What happened to the days where someone was good because they played amazing cover 3? All this game is are nanos, RCers, and kids who cant be good unless they steal other peoples plays. Lets play the game the way it is supposed to be played boys.



How is the outside slant cheese? It's easily covered by buzz zones.

You're a crybaby who doesn't want to take the time to adjust. I don't RC very often, but it's not unstoppable. Infact, it's pretty overrated. A very well timed hit will force a drop.
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PostSubject: Re: Cheesing and Abusing   2010-03-23, 23:27

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Ya I agree with you totally. However if someone is really good at running the outside slant out of snugs when they put their running back in motion it can be extremely difficult to stop. You have to do it manually and when you are doing it you cant see your guy so it makes it that much harder. There are plays like Z spot that cant be stopped cuz flats are broken




If you claim the flats or the outside slants are "broken" then you're just playing shitty defense. Period.
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PostSubject: Re: Cheesing and Abusing   2010-03-24, 07:43

they aren't broken because they can be stopped and i do stop them. But they do get through randomly sometimes. Not just an outside slant either. If you dont know what Im talking about ill show u if ur on 360
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PostSubject: Re: Cheesing and Abusing   2010-03-24, 08:41

none of this stuff is cheating if an outside slant was cheating it woldnt be available in hot routes and half the blitzes you see arent even nanos they are just overloads its that simple there are more blitzers than blockers. if someone ties up two offense lineman with two defensive lineman and rushes a third defender through the gap how is that cheating? this is almost as ridiculous as when i hear people claim that motioning WR to create mismatched and confuse coverage is cheating! everything can be stopped all you have to do is find out how and i agree ^^ the flats are easily stopped and if your zones arent working just USER it!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Cheesing and Abusing   2010-03-24, 14:38

no one ever said cheating bro...cheesing and cheating are different
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PostSubject: Re: Cheesing and Abusing   2010-03-24, 16:16

not really many people view them the same i have people all the time message me and say im cheating when all I did was blitz them i had a guy today send me a message that said nanos and glitches and all I did was stop a run cuase a fumble and RC a TD and he called me a cheater thats all i am saying
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PostSubject: Re: Cheesing and Abusing   2010-03-24, 19:37

Ya i no what u mean I hate those kids that cant win so they say the other person cheated.
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PostSubject: Re: Cheesing and Abusing   2010-04-05, 17:24

if you guys think madden is cheesy you should have played nhl 09 but i actually enjoyed it in nhl because u could control the goalie
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PostSubject: Re: Cheesing and Abusing   2010-04-06, 00:58

I like wiNE wit my cheese
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PostSubject: Re: Cheesing and Abusing   2010-04-06, 01:28

just cheese them back
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PostSubject: Re: Cheesing and Abusing   2010-04-08, 15:41

I never thought people cheesing was a serious issue. Madden is all about reacting, I mean there arent any unstoppable plays. If someone is doing something unconventional, its on me to adjust. Imagine if you used the time it took to complain and used it to scheme a defense for certain plays you couldn't stop, I bet that s*** wouldnt bother you anymore. I love when people come out in some bullshit cheese scheme, its the sim players that are tough to beat IMO.
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PostSubject: Re: Cheesing and Abusing   2010-04-12, 23:51

o Cpt ViDeO o wrote:
I just got out of a match and this guy called me a cheeser because the set plays I had already were ripping him apart and he couldn't make the right adjustment.

I did not rocket catch, no slant abuse, just good user play on offense and defense.

Players at the end of the day have to look at their self and say could I have done something different to deflect this cheese play. Look at the end game footage, all four quarters and dissect your own game and get back to the lab and work on adjustments.

I understand your frustration, I was where you were before I started to blame myself for running the wrong defense and blaming other players for running plays that worked for them.

It takes discipline and it takes patience, which most madden players don't have.

But when you figure out what to do against one cheeser it will carry over to helping take care of the next cheeser.

Good luck and practice.


i am in total agreement..alltho i would like to so a madden version of ESPN 2k5 ^.^
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PostSubject: Re: Cheesing and Abusing   2010-04-13, 00:21

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outside slants aren't cheese they can be defended. the only thing that is cheese is abusing the flats. there are certain routes that go to the flat the cant be defended. like today my opp kept hitting his te in the flat i played a cover 2 that didn't work. i played cover2 again and threw some1 into a buzz zone to go along with the guy covering the flat man didn't work either. the flats are still broken. another time i noticed the flats were not defended well is when i sent my wr on a drag route and i watched him run all the way to the other sidline and the guy who was defending that part of the flats wasn't even aware of the wr and made no effort to guard him. ea still has a long ways to go before they make a decent game. so far the game is a super epic fail.

use Cover 3 press out of nickel not the orginal nickel i forgot with one and to lazy to turn on my xbox, ^.^, as for the running across field needa run cover 4 for that ^.^
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PostSubject: Re: Cheesing and Abusing   2010-04-15, 22:09

u kno ery1 expecs a bit of cheese but cmon when there is no defense to it thts sumpin too be pissed on...i mean a dude was down to me 28-7 the other day waitd till the game was at 1 second left and d/c no body gota win or loss it dont even act like we ever played!!!!!...thts after i shut down the outside slant and punk rollout glitch ****...i mean cmon get some x and o knowledge and then play ball...online games are a joke for real but so addictive lmao...
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PostSubject: Re: Cheesing and Abusing   2010-04-22, 12:56

Jesus, there's a lot of crying in this thread.

Probably 1 in 20 of the people you think are cheesing actually are.

Cheesing would be someone doing something that is undefendable.

The flats can be defended, and are not broken.

Screens can be defended, and are not broken.

The outside slant is very easy to defend.
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