What is the point of using a 46 defense?

Ant1010 wrote:

Well Baltimore and NYJ gets your the 4-6 normal and 3-4. The best 4-3 playbook is easily Chicago though.

why do you think chicago's PB is the best 4-3 PB? jus wondering...

B-__-R-__-B wrote:

Ant1010 wrote:

Well Baltimore and NYJ gets your the 4-6 normal and 3-4. The best 4-3 playbook is easily Chicago though.

why do you think chicago's PB is the best 4-3 PB? jus wondering...

Well on my system they have 4-6 Bear and is the only playbook that has 7 plays out of it. They have the Quarter Zone Blitz, and they have Nickel Strong strong which is a great pressure formation. The 4-6 Bear and Quarter Zone Blitz is really why it's the best defense. Since i can use Goal Line defense more effectively now, i no longer need the 4-6. I just run with CLE book because they have both 1-5-5's and the 3-3-5. I don't need to 2-4-5 as much as i once did.

Ant1010 wrote:

B-__-R-__-B wrote:

Ant1010 wrote:

Well Baltimore and NYJ gets your the 4-6 normal and 3-4. The best 4-3 playbook is easily Chicago though.

why do you think chicago's PB is the best 4-3 PB? jus wondering...

Well on my system they have 4-6 Bear and is the only playbook that has 7 plays out of it. They have the Quarter Zone Blitz, and they have Nickel Strong strong which is a great pressure formation. The 4-6 Bear and Quarter Zone Blitz is really why it's the best defense. Since i can use Goal Line defense more effectively now, i no longer need the 4-6. I just run with CLE book because they have both 1-5-5's and the 3-3-5. I don't need to 2-4-5 as much as i once did.

what do you mean on your system? like on 360 or what?

B-__-R-__-B wrote:

Ant1010 wrote:

B-__-R-__-B wrote:

Ant1010 wrote:

Well Baltimore and NYJ gets your the 4-6 normal and 3-4. The best 4-3 playbook is easily Chicago though.

why do you think chicago's PB is the best 4-3 PB? jus wondering...

Well on my system they have 4-6 Bear and is the only playbook that has 7 plays out of it. They have the Quarter Zone Blitz, and they have Nickel Strong strong which is a great pressure formation. The 4-6 Bear and Quarter Zone Blitz is really why it's the best defense. Since i can use Goal Line defense more effectively now, i no longer need the 4-6. I just run with CLE book because they have both 1-5-5's and the 3-3-5. I don't need to 2-4-5 as much as i once did.

what do you mean on your system? like on 360 or what?

Wii

Vaughnilla619 wrote:

Use multiple D. Best playbook in the game. You get the 46 and 3-4... That's all you need trust me. My defense consists of 3 plays. 46 inside blitz, 46 cover 1, and 3-4 cover 2 man. I just figured out what offense and defense PB's to use for the Panthers today.

Det offense PB. Multiple D PB.

Outscored my last 2 opponents 93-14.

1st game. Guy was 2 lvls below me and I won 45-14. He was Broncos.

2nd game. Guy was 1 lvl ahead of me and I won 48-0. He was the Pats.

So I'd say the two plays I got out of the 46 and one play I got out of the 3-4 worked pretty well.

If y'all got any questions as to how I set up these plays just holler at me.

p.s. It also depends on what teams your using... Bcuz different PB's fit different teams better. It also depends on how you scheme as well.

your opponents must be pretty dam stupid not to figure out that your are playing man every play of the game,if you did that against me, id put up 60..now on the topic,use the NYJ pbook,you have 46, 3-4, AND Odd Split (Best formation in the game)

Ant1010 wrote:

B-__-R-__-B wrote:

Ant1010 wrote:

B-__-R-__-B wrote:

Ant1010 wrote:

Well Baltimore and NYJ gets your the 4-6 normal and 3-4. The best 4-3 playbook is easily Chicago though.

why do you think chicago's PB is the best 4-3 PB? jus wondering...

Well on my system they have 4-6 Bear and is the only playbook that has 7 plays out of it. They have the Quarter Zone Blitz, and they have Nickel Strong strong which is a great pressure formation. The 4-6 Bear and Quarter Zone Blitz is really why it's the best defense. Since i can use Goal Line defense more effectively now, i no longer need the 4-6. I just run with CLE book because they have both 1-5-5's and the 3-3-5. I don't need to 2-4-5 as much as i once did.

what do you mean on your system? like on 360 or what?

Wii

haha your the first person i met on this site that actually plays this for the wii

Wii LMAO!!

Hahaha well my defense works. I haven't really let anyone drive the ball on me. It's usually one or two big plays a game that kill me

I'm da ish in madden wrote:

3-4 owns 4-3. It has better nanos, faster set-ups and more formations.

Quantity doesn't equal quality. The 3-4 is weak versus the run.

Vaughnilla619 wrote:

I'm telling you, you don't even need bear. I used the multiple D in all 3 games I played yesterday... I played against Denver, NE, and the Vikes...

Denver = 4 rushing yards

NE = 0 rushing yards

Vikes = 1 rushing yards

I guess whatever works for you tho.

Did they all run it 5 times or less? I doubt you held them to that on 30 carries.

odd split is soft vs the run too, everybody is way to spread out=easy running lanes

AshBlackstone wrote:

I'm da ish in madden wrote:

3-4 owns 4-3. It has better nanos, faster set-ups and more formations.

Quantity doesn't equal quality. The 3-4 is weak versus the run.

3-4 isnt weak against run lol.. if u can run it rite u gud.34 can stop the run n snap..with a couple adjustments and gud stick skills i cool..

Th3 Ac3r wrote:

Ant1010 wrote:

B-__-R-__-B wrote:

Ant1010 wrote:

B-__-R-__-B wrote:

Ant1010 wrote:

Well Baltimore and NYJ gets your the 4-6 normal and 3-4. The best 4-3 playbook is easily Chicago though.

why do you think chicago's PB is the best 4-3 PB? jus wondering...

Well on my system they have 4-6 Bear and is the only playbook that has 7 plays out of it. They have the Quarter Zone Blitz, and they have Nickel Strong strong which is a great pressure formation. The 4-6 Bear and Quarter Zone Blitz is really why it's the best defense. Since i can use Goal Line defense more effectively now, i no longer need the 4-6. I just run with CLE book because they have both 1-5-5's and the 3-3-5. I don't need to 2-4-5 as much as i once did.

what do you mean on your system? like on 360 or what?

Wii

haha your the first person i met on this site that actually plays this for the wii

Yea it's great playing realistic madden where people can't rely on goal line schemes and nano's to win games. Good luck on these systems.

Ant1010 wrote:

Th3 Ac3r wrote:

Ant1010 wrote:

B-__-R-__-B wrote:

Ant1010 wrote:

B-__-R-__-B wrote:

Ant1010 wrote:

Well Baltimore and NYJ gets your the 4-6 normal and 3-4. The best 4-3 playbook is easily Chicago though.

why do you think chicago's PB is the best 4-3 PB? jus wondering...

Well on my system they have 4-6 Bear and is the only playbook that has 7 plays out of it. They have the Quarter Zone Blitz, and they have Nickel Strong strong which is a great pressure formation. The 4-6 Bear and Quarter Zone Blitz is really why it's the best defense. Since i can use Goal Line defense more effectively now, i no longer need the 4-6. I just run with CLE book because they have both 1-5-5's and the 3-3-5. I don't need to 2-4-5 as much as i once did.

what do you mean on your system? like on 360 or what?

Wii

haha your the first person i met on this site that actually plays this for the wii

Yea it's great playing realistic madden where people can't rely on goal line schemes and nano's to win games. Good luck on these systems.

hahaha if your calling the Wii "realistic Madden" then you have something wrong with your head,and i would get that checked out

I use the multiple d playbook and was wondering how you set a lot of your stuff up. I usually stick with cover 2 and cover 3 with the 3-4, and a lot of the time I qb spy with one of my DE's because there is always room for the qb to run. I mainly use the 46 to stop the run but will use cover 2 at times to get a good rush with decent coverage.

Skane3 wrote:

AshBlackstone wrote:

I'm da ish in madden wrote:

3-4 owns 4-3. It has better nanos, faster set-ups and more formations.

Quantity doesn't equal quality. The 3-4 is weak versus the run.

3-4 isnt weak against run lol.. if u can run it rite u gud.34 can stop the run n snap..with a couple adjustments and gud stick skills i cool..

The 3-4 is soft inside. Power formations own it.

crazyblack001 wrote:

i run 46 normal all game, every play. best formation in the game. almost always hold somebody to one TD on O. theres no need to run anything else. i run it vs 2 RB 2 TE 1 WR or 5 wide. and i will stop whatever you run. snugs flip is soft and overrated, easly stoped with a few purples. i can run it against anything and do what i want with you

and thats not even throwing in 46 bear lol

what adjustments do you make when they come out with 5wr sets when u running 46

Set it to the Speed package and run Cover 2 Sink.

Ash... Patriots were the only team to run less then 10 times. Denver around 15 times and the Vikings about 20 times b4 he quit. And this is against the computer too when they quit so there was even more running but AP couldn't do nothing.

And if you come out in a 46 inside blitz and the go 5WR set, just line up the OLB and safety over their guys and rush the **** outta tha guy

dude i started using 46 defense today.. i owned this kid and he was using the patriots i picked him off 5 times got pressure on him every play made him make mistakes... he had a passer rating of 8.3 with 9 completions 32 attempts no tds... score was 42-2......lol

so much swag wrote:

the 4-6 is good the problem is people don't use the 4-3 in it to set up the fire!!everybody want's to 4-6bear it all the time and you see it coming.

The 4-3 Over formation in the 46 playbook is very useful.

I have several good heavy coverages and zone blitzes that I use out of this. Between that, the 46 Norm, and the 46 Bear...you can create a very dominating defense.

i got nothing outta the 43 over, and only a couple of plays outta the bear.

the 46 is where i mostly call plays from. Occasionally the Nickel Strong.

ok, i love the 3-4. i run the Ravens. however, they are a hybrid defense and can do well in the 4-3 as well as the 4-6. with that being said...the 4-6 is hellacious! like someone else said...when mixed in with the 4-3 and a few other formations, the 4-6 pressure can have your head spinning.

46 is ok but i think we need to look at it with a more specific examples. if ur playing lower level guys then either will work obviously but with better players u have to show something they don't know how to deal with or stop the popular plays. odd split is much better at stopping off tackle. 46 as a run defenses shuts down most runs expect for off tackle which is y it because popular. odd split/4-4 do very nice jobs of stopping the off tackle.

snugs which is again super popular can wreck havock on 46 but not many other gun formations work that well. u mentioned purple zones to shut down snugs but i use snugs to abuse the flats and 46 has problems containing the pocket while bringing outside pressure which is how to stop flat abusers.

now i'm not saying that you can't stop off tackle or snug from 46 but i definitely believe that pressure is easier to set up and contains are easier to set up in odd split or 3-4 than it is to set up for 46.

i'm sure that any player with a skill and experience advantage will be better with either book but theres a reason that all the pros run jets d and that's to get both formations. theres only a few plays in 46 normal that jets 46 doesnt have that are usable (i.e. cover2hawk, zone stretch, gap fire) but in order to get 3 decent plays in 46 formation you lose out on all the plays out of 155, all 3-4 formations, odd split. i'd much rather have a pb with these formations missing a couple of good 46 plays rather than lose all these formations.